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Old 09-27-2013, 04:10 PM   #1
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I still haven't decided what I'm doing with my Grand Prix in the next year, but I was wondering why does ZZP not offer a top swap for 04-08 series III, and when I e-mailed them about it they said it was more trouble than its worth to do a top swap on the series III, yet W Body Store offers a top swap option for series III for around $1500?

I really wanted the CSC kit on clubGP but the guy pretty much abandoned the thread and never sold it to anyone. Bullshit. I did so many side jobs I didn't want to do to get the money for that kit.
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if you saved up 1500$ before, save up another 900$ and buy a z3 turbo kit and just run around on 10psi.
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Go turbo. /thread
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Not worth doing the kit, you can buy an entire L67 or L32 for way less than $1500 from the local junkyards. Or even an entire donor car for $1500 or less.
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if you saved up 1500$ before, save up another 900$ and buy a z3 turbo kit and just run around on 10psi.
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Fuck a top swap
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I don't think ZZP sees the money in the top swap for the newer cars. Top swaps are a pain in the ass for everyone. They're heavy to ship, it's nearly impossible to find heads without cracks, there's a bunch of small stuff and invariable something is missing from the kit...

Dropping in the entire engine is the easiest thing to do but it's not feasible for a lot of people for one reason or another. Turbo'ing is by far the best thing to do and honestly it's what we recommend to most people even though we don't offer a turbo kit.
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Turbo. Done
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Z3 kit will kill the power of a cam headers top swap on half the boost with no other mods
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spray the l26 with 200 shot
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Pfffff that's it? Fuck that ,400 shot or go home
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But really it would probably take a 200 like a champ for a track deal
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id put an NA topend on an l67 shorty with a 400 direct port shot
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I don't trust myself to install a turbo kit and I haven't done much shopping around on install pricing, I know ZZP is reasonable for install pricing on their kits but getting my car there is the problem.

I haven't done any shopping around locally except I stopped at Modern Muscle in Plainfield a month or two ago and the guy at the desk there gave me a ballpark estimate of $10,000 to install a turbo kit since they normally don't do FWD stuff there.
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turbo kit is easier and less involved to install that a top swap...



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Jesus..... 10K turbo kit better make that a 9sec car.

or at least faster then HK
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I wish I was joking about that quote since I see some guys from there post on here. I was pretty disappointed. Would have loved to give them my business, but not at 2x the value of my car, and 5x the price of the turbo kit lol.
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dude you could install a turbo kit if you got the entire thing right from zzp, it isn't bad at all.

like i said, the topswap would be more labor intensive without a doubt.
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@daturbosix might be able to help you out.
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made a GP kit fit a fucking bonneville in a weekend.

took longer to sort out the tq managment so it hauls balls.

stock junk turbonnie would probably be faster than panda's heap ever thought it was before he wuss'd out of the game...still he's what #3 on the stock cam dyno?
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