04 grand prix tune

[hockeybawler]

This may of already been asked but I did a quick search and have called around some but have found nothing. Does anyone know a place the will tune a 04 pontiac grand prix with the 3.8L V6 in it? I just completed my top swap so I am looking to get it tuned. Thanks for the help in advance!

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[Yaj Yak]

its tough around here.. what you will probably get is 209 people telling you to learn how yourself...

if i were to be doing this though my car would most likely be going to zzp... just out of lack of options

 

[10sec]

If it's just a bolt on topswap car save yourself the hassle/$$ and just get a canned tune pcm.

 

[Yaj Yak]

also a good idear.

 

[SleeperLS]

Do you have HP Tuners on a laptop? If not and your willing to drive to Ohio, go to Dynotunemotorsports.com and hit up Brian. If you are in the Chicago area I agree with the already said opinions.

 

[hockeybawler]

Yeah I am about a hour out of chicago, I dont really want to buy a generic tuned pcm from like zzp or overkill or anything like that so I might be making a drive to ohio. Where in ohio is it located?

 

[SleeperLS]

Near Dayton

 

[10sec]

Honestly, a tune from any of the 3800 vendors is probably going to net the same power, depending on your mods... Which you haven't listed. Trying to save you $$.

 

[SleeperLS]

Brian has tuned some 3800's in his day that is for sure, but it will no doubt cost way more.

 

[10sec]

Yea, I'm just saying that if it's just a topswap car with minimal bolt on mods, from a lot of experience I've found a simple canned tune will do just fine. There's just not much you can do for them. Now add an intercooler, or a cam, yea, lots of potential there.

 

[hockeybawler]

Yeah I just was looking at the site and that seems pretty expensive. My mods are topswap, headers, CAI(technically hot but oh well), 3.6 pulley is what I think I will be running, and that is about it. I took off my mufflers but I would not consider that a mod.

 

[hockeybawler]

When I bought my supercharger the guy threw in a SX3 cam but I decided I didn't want to throw that in my car just yet since I am 17 and that would cost a bit more than I am willing to spend to make the car safe and not blow anything or kill my tranny

 

[SleeperLS]

yup, I agree with 10sec...canned tune

 

[hockeybawler]

Then would it be best to go with zzp or overkill? Or somewhere else? I have heard people don't really like zzp's tuned pcm, is that true or is it fine?

 

[10sec]

There's a bunch of stuff you need to run that cam anyways, so it's best you didn't do it. Overkill has good PCM's, screw ZZP. Don't buy anything from them unless you absolutely have to. Our local guy Mike K might have good PCMs. (wbodystore.com) Get your parts there if you can, local business FTW. Plus we like him.

 

[cacicgtp7]

Either will work fine. If you can find a used DHP tune floating out there that's good too. Will from Overkill can sometimes be hard to get a hold of, but his tunes are fine. I had one with my GXP, had DHP back when I had my GTP.

Don't have any experience with ZZP tunes, but their customer service is good.

 

[hockeybawler]

What exactly do you mean by "might have good PCM's"? Haha and yea I have heard will is sometimes hard to get a hold of. I dont think I want to do zzp's anyways just based on their prices.

 

[10sec]

I just meant he might have them, as in sells them. I've never looked. I think he deals with overkill, but don't quote me on that. I do know that he won't stiff you or send you junk like ZZP.

 

[PANDA]

If you don't want to pay $100 or whatever for a canned ZZP PCM you do not want to know what a local member will charge for a tune...

 

[hockeybawler]

Nah I meant that zzp is like $185 just by going off all the extras and what not and after the refundable $125 pcm core charge. If I remembered correctly overkill was like $125 so that is why I didn't want to go with zzp if they are basically the same thing with a different name. Being 17 I try to save money when I can!

 

[SuperDaveGSE]

Clint up in Oak creek Wisconsin is probably your closest option.

 

[1quick]

Ware are you located? I'm going to zzp on Friday and could bring you back a tuned PCM at a slight discount and no shipping, if you actually go there and have them dyno tune it its not really that much i had a set up like yours but the s1x cam and it was 200 bucks for a dyno tune, also you may need bigger than stock injectors and an upgraded fuel pump and or rewire for that set up on an 04+ car

 

[hockeybawler]

I am located in Huntley. I have gtp injectors in there right now but I am thinking of going 39 or 42 pound injectors. I haven't heard about needing to do anything with the fuel pump so mine is stock for now but I will definetly look into that, thanks! Oh and I will get back to you on the pcm cause if they will tune it at the shop for around $200 then I might take a drive up there.

 

[1quick]

I had a top swap 06 every thing the same as yours with a s1x cam on a 3.4 I used 42lb injectors but I think I still had the stock pump at that time, the fuel system on an 04+ always requires more than the return style system injector and pump wise, email Tim at zzp for a quote on tuning

 

[hockeybawler]

Will do, thanks a lot