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Old 01-27-2016, 07:13 PM   #1
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Default Motorcycles at NoFlyZone...? Discuss

this is something that always comes up. I am examining ideas for our Arizona event... but I want to inquire here. I am hoping to draw some motorcycle people into the conversation as well, as currently the conversation is all on facebook.

Anyway... some of the hypothetical options... Bike vs Bike, or Bike vs Car, or Bike solo. What are your thoughts on this matter. Please be frank and honest. Ultimately the decision is mine... but I would love to see what some of the community has to say.

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Like I said on FB, I think I'm open to any of the options BUT the idea of a car and bike running at the same time makes me nervous. The bike is almost always going to be out ahead and if something were to happen, a car would be bearing down on them very fast.

I'm just happy that bikes might actually be allowed at a 1/2 mile event. Opens things up to a whole new crowd.
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Like I said on FB, I think I'm open to any of the options BUT the idea of a car and bike running at the same time makes me nervous. The bike is almost always going to be out ahead and if something were to happen, a car would be bearing down on them very fast.

I'm just happy that bikes might actually be allowed at a 1/2 mile event. Opens things up to a whole new crowd.
Very true. I have always assumed bikes only wanted to join to race against the cars. Having gotten several messages to the contrary, that they just want to run the runway, is a different story. Not saying that any of it will happen... but it opens up options.
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Sorry, but I find bikes dreadfully boring to watch. KOTS bikes, drag racing bikes, etc. Part of that is ignorance on my part given they all look the same and I don't know the difference.
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As a bike rider I would enjoy doing it once. I would be sceptical about going against a car especially at those speeds. If anything happened it would be bad for the bike. I'd be for bike vs bike though.
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Bike solo and bike vs bike makes sense. Bike vs car seems like things could go bad pretty quickly.
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not a bike guy but the runway was not pristine condition brand new asphalt, absolutely not expected with the age, just wondering if that poses any increased risk with bikes having much less rubber contact and obviously less stability control.
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I am not a huge fan of bikes myself and like @Bru I cannot tell the difference between any of them. Definitely ignorance on my part, but I also find them extremely boring to watch.
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do 4 bikes at once.
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i'd be more excited to watch then.
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Bikes would be cool at this event. Hell, I would ponder the idea of bringing a bike. No, not my Street Glide...
Some good points were brought up though.
Bikes vs Bikes and/or Bikes solo is the way to go.
Bikes vs Cars would be bad if something happened. Like @Mook said, the bikes will most likely be ahead of the cars. If disaster happens and the rider gets into the lane of a car coming down that fast, there will be no good outcome for either participant.
Some of you may think watching bikes go is boring and that is fine. But it would be nice to give them a chance at an event like this. You'd be surprised and what people would bring and how fast they are.
Now the point of the runway surface. That would play a huge factor in it as well. If it's just going to toss you around, it's down right dangerous. But on the other hand they all are doing these speeds on the highway. We all know how well Illinois roads are.
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Yeah but highways don't have patches of grass and weeds in them. By no means was it a terrible surface but I doubt it would be an easy ride on a rocket.
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I didn't realize it was that bad....
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It doesn't feel like it when you're doing 140+ but on the test cruise at 50-60 it felt pretty sketchy lol.
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It doesn't feel like it when you're doing 140+ but on the test cruise at 50-60 it felt pretty sketchy lol.
yeah, a runway is about losing traction and taking flight.
we're doing it wrong looking for traction and downforce

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if its just wide gaps...but if its elevation changes/etc then it'd be pretty damn exciting
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Being a rider, I'd love to participate in an event like this, and the only reason I havent attended in the past is because I'd rather run than watch.

Bike solo would be lame, but if it's our only option for participating I'd do it.
Bike vs bike is ideal and would be best
Bile vs car wiuld be fun too, but with the obvious risks involved I understand if it's not allowed
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I hate watching bikes...

pull up slow... slow burnout...slow to line... GONE... 9's or faster
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I just can't tell if I'm supposed to be impressed when a bike gets a certain mph.
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Bikes running the half, would be cool. Under no circumstances should you run car/bike. That could go very bad. But I think it would be cool to see them get down, then get upset when certain cars run faster...
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No need to be upset, there's always somebody faster or more skilled. You of all people know how hard it is to get a good launch from a bike. Only saving grace here would be a rolling start.
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I think the bikes would be cool. I'd run my car against them. As a rider too the likelihood of a bike going down and ending up in the path of a car I think is less than most think.

Also as far as bikes taking long to get up and make the run...I feel they would be faster from stage to finish than the cars. Especially from a roll. It definitely won't be like at the drag strip. There really wasn't any delays and things ran pretty smooth last year.

My vote is let them run and let them line up with whoever they want, bike or car. Leave it up to the rider and driver. If the car doesn't want to run a bike they can just say no thanks, vise versa
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It doesn't feel like it when you're doing 140+ but on the test cruise at 50-60 it felt pretty sketchy lol.

This.

Shibby rode with me on my test pass at 50 and it felt sketchy as fuck. I was actually worried. But at full throttle I skated over the bumps.

Now for bikes? I do not ride so I don't know but it is not smooth I will say that. A bump on a bike is different than a 3500 lbs car
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