As a left turner in the intersection, I have had to wait well into the red to turn after people blow through too late.
I was just thinking this too. It's especially bad in Chicago and pretty much always goes like this:
- At a red light waiting
- Oncoming left turn lane has the green arrow
- Arrow changes to yellow, cars keep turning anyway to try and "make" the light
- Oncoming light turns RED
- Wait for the three or four red light runners to blow through
- NOW finally you can go
The only thing worse that I've seen is if you're a pedestrian in the suburbs trying to cross the street on a walk signal. Most suburban drivers don't know what a pedestrian is and will run you right the fuck over. I've been in the crosswalk while having the walk signal and the right of way and had drivers nearly hit me as they make a left turn. Then they have the nerve to yell profanities. I had one bitch in an SUV honk profusely at me and then drive up over the curb to get around me.