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Old 04-20-2017, 12:50 PM   #1
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The 2018 BMW M4 CS Is Here With 454 Horses but No Manual Transmission





Last year, BMW brought out the thoroughly wild M4 GTS, a 500-hp track weapon that took the M4 to an all-new extreme. The GTS's only flaw–other than its $150,00 price tag and the fact that BMW only brought 300 of them to the U.S.–was that it ended up being a little too hardcore for most folks to use as a street car. That's okay, because the new BMW M4 CS is intended to split the difference between the crazy GTS and your regular M4 Competition Package.

The M4 CS doesn't get the GTS's water injection system, so it has to make do with a mere 454 horsepower, but that should be more then plenty. Thanks to a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission–sorry, no manual–BMW says the M4 CS accelerates from 0-62 mph in 3.9 seconds, on to a top speed of 174 mph.

BMW says the suspension setup on the M4 CS is largely the same as that of the Competition Package, but the CS's adaptive dampers are tuned for superior performance on and off track. Those dampers offer three settings–Comfort, Sport, and for the track, Sport+. BMW also gave the CS new wheels, measuring 19 inches in the front, 20 out back, with super-sticky Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires standard.

The exterior styling reflects the track-ready nature of the M4 CS. The front and rear splitters, rear spoiler, hood and roof are all made from carbon fiber to help save some weight. Inside, there's all sorts of Alcantara trim to remind you that the CS is sportier than your run-of-the-mill M4, but it still comes with a radio and navigation standard (both were nixed in the GTS).

All of the upgraded hardware helps the M4 CS run around the Nurburgring in 7:38 seconds, BMW says. That's 10 seconds off the M4 GTS's time, although it is a full 14 seconds faster than a base M4 coupe.

BMW told us that the M4 CS will cost €116,900 (roughly $125,000 USD) in Europe, though we're still waiting to learn official US pricing. That is, of course, quite a bit more expensive than the regular M4, but cheaper than the extremely limited production GTS.

If that price is a little beyond your reach, there's other good news: BMW has officially confirmed that there will be more CS-branded performance models coming soon, which means it's highly likely that a hotter M2 CS is on its way.
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Bring on the M2 CS! 125K is a bit rich, even for my poor financial decision standards.
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Seems rather weak horsepower for that kind of money...
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Its no Dodge Demon.
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BMW and European cars in general are not all about brash horsepower but more about the entire package, and especially going around corners.

If you want hp numbers only buy American.
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Its no Model S...thats for sure!
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BMW and European cars in general are not all about brash horsepower but more about the entire package, and especially going around corners.

If you want hp numbers only buy American.
Mercedes does...and has been offering insane horsepower for decades...
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Mercedes does...and has been offering insane horsepower for decades...


In what? And what do you consider insane? A lot of their higher hp models have to be due to the weight of the veh.

Hell even the Mercedes SLR mcLaren is only 600 hp. And that is their hypercar.

Their cars are also built to do more than just a drag race and that's it.
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In what? And what do you consider insane? A lot of their higher hp models have to be due to the weight of the veh.

Hell even the Mercedes SLR mcLaren is only 600 hp. And that is their hypercar.

Their cars are also built to do more than just a drag race and that's it.
I'm not sure what you're getting at man. I said 454hp seems low for a car priced at $150k.

Mercedes offers near or well over 500HP in just about every model they have. You can get a C63 AMG for half the price of the BMW above, and it has more horsepower. Does the BMW probably handle great? Sure, I bet it does. Does it change the fact that this seems like low horsepower numbers for a car priced at $150k? No.
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BMW and European cars in general are not all about brash horsepower but more about the entire package, and especially going around corners.

If you want hp numbers only buy American.
See also Corvette z06 and Camaro ZL1, both which beat this $125k "track" BMW by 10+ seconds around the ring.
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Correct? However American cars that are well rounded and can do that are few and far between. As you only stated 2 cars below that price point. And I honestly cannot think of another that would be in the same ball park.

Also a brand new Z with options can be pretty darn close to 125k

Edit: maybe viper? However that starts at 100k with no options and it's discontinued
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All three American manufacturers make a car that beats this car around the ring (pretty handily to be honest) for cheaper.

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100

Viper ACR
Corvette Z06
Camaro ZL1
Mustang GT350R

So this thing isn't as good of a track car as cheaper American counterparts, and its not faster in a straight line than its cheaper European, Japanese, and American counterparts.
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See also Corvette z06 and Camaro ZL1, both which beat this $125k "track" BMW by 10+ seconds around the ring.
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The days of European companies shrugging off American cars as hillbilly straight line machines is coming to a close. The only thing America is lacking is the super/hyper cars of Europe.
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I approve the BMW bashing.
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M4 GTS sounded good on paper. But fell short on the track. It also didn't get any love for street driving due to the harsh suspension. Seems way overpriced for the performance. The M4 CS had sounded good up till the moment they released the price. Too much cash for the performance. Considering a M4 coupe starts at like $67K here in the states. Add the Competition package (445hp) and the Dual clutch trans and you are at under $79k. Heck, add the $8K ceramic brakes and you are still under $87K. So an additional $38K? That is if the car is $125K here. I bet it is more.
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but build quality.

and with a tune they gain 100+ wheel and smell like cinnamon buns and print money and go back in time.

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BMW and European cars in general are not all about brash horsepower but more about the entire package, and especially going around corners.

If you want hp numbers only buy American.
90's mentality

that's how it was back in 90's . American cars didn't handle for shit . Now BMW is still stock in 90's with not much progress . American , Japanese cars caught them few years ago and passed them recently. it was laughable when a $35K Mustang with straight axle run right next to $75K M3 around corners . American cars make more power , cheaper and handle better . Standard Z06 without any option with rape this BMW , I bet a $40K Camaro SS 1LE will run better times around corners too then this $125K BMW

Where did the BMW handling go recently ?
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Does it come in grey? Would like.
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Is BMW on crack lately ? $125K for numbers like that LOL . that would have been awesome 10 years ago

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Read only a few lines to chime in and say but a tuned hellcat would kill it in a straight line.
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I would hope so! A stock Hellcat would. 707 > 454
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BMW and European cars in general are not all about brash horsepower but more about the entire package, and especially going around corners.

If you want hp numbers only buy American.


Except that's not true. American cars are on par or faster than most exotics on the track. European cars used to handle a lot better than American cars, but the opposite is the case today.
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All three American manufacturers make a car that beats this car around the ring (pretty handily to be honest) for cheaper.

https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100

Viper ACR
Corvette Z06
Camaro ZL1
Mustang GT350R

So this thing isn't as good of a track car as cheaper American counterparts, and its not faster in a straight line than its cheaper European, Japanese, and American counterparts.
sure, but those are more dedicated track cars.

and those straight line cars like your c63 amg can beat it in a straight line, but far less can touch it around a track.

you're paying a premium for a limited and bmw for sure - but it's more of a jack of all trades car master of none. your daily will be nicer in the M4 but not your lap times (if you're even capable of them). your straight line pedal smash will be better in your c63 but the m4 will dance around it on a track.

if you really want to more directly compare the M4, what's the do everything car like it's trying to be, in the same price range, that's better? those would be much better comparisons.
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