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Old 12-01-2015, 10:22 PM   #101
 
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I'd like to think the DHP 1.0 pcms we sold for years were just fine canned tunes for
the most part on basic mod cars.

Nothing wrong with phone apps or anything... Havent used Torque and such, but
if it can log the same 4/5 frames per second and do a bunch of PIDS at once, there
isnt anything wrong.

Used AutoTap and old 200mhz laptops back in the day to log when racing before
the PowrTuner came out.
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blows my mind what people had to deal with before technology........

then again the phone in my pocket has more computing capacity than what put man on the moon soooo...........
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Last I knew, torque doesn't report KR unless you custom add the PID.
Indeed. Also added PIDs for transmission temperature and a few other things.
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Tentative plan as of now..

Low mile salvage s2 w/ gen3 , slap my cam on in there and new rollmaster, 90s and find someone to tune it.

I don't know of anyone who does besides late model throttle up in Waukesha.
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rollmaster oem replacement?

why would you use a double roller on a baby cam and 90# springs?

Just use a fresh stock timing chain. cloyes?

of all the 3800 people on here isn't someone a decent local tuner?
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Because if someone local tunes it, they won't want the responsibility in the end.

The tuner is always the first one blamed.

People think tuners can fix mechanical problems.
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I understand going into it that anything can happen
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Nope other than the horror stories of others using canned tunes. Seems like a band aid.

Like I said I havnt been around the scene forever I have no idea what worked 15 years ago. Could you even edit anything or just view the scans?

I have no idea if the weight of a big ass park ave has any effect on the issues OP had.

Ive got an Aeroforce an AEM wideband and HPTuners I just don't trust some phone app. If it works and people are willing to use it to each their own.

Edit. the s1x E85 car I daily has 2 pcm's also one for piss gas and 1 for E85. Those were both dyno tuned by dyno brian from when greg pritt owned the car before me.

Have dyno sheets for both pcm's 3.2 and piss gas and 2.8 on corn.
This is really everything that's wrong with the internet. "I don't have any first hand experience however I'm going to speak as if I'm an expert". You basically just admitted you have no experience with the PCMs you're criticizing nor any experience with the scanning app.

I mean this in the most polite way possible: What makes you think you're qualified to speak on a topic you apparently know next to nothing about and then when corrected on your ignorance by those that do have hands on experience you just double down and repeat the same mis-guided assumptions all over again?
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LOL let me reemphasize modded trash rule #1!

THY SHALL FIX OWN SHIT!!!!!!

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I used a ls1m with palm pilot to scan my first gtp, and I loved that. Until they came out with aeroforce, I wanted another because it was so handy. Nothing wrong with the phone app either. It's just reading information that the pcm has.

Nothing wrong with a zzp tune on a car. It bugs me when I see people talk down upon them on all the Facebook groups. I've seen a lot of different canned tunes over the years, and they are all almost identical. They have the fuel cuts removed, so slight tweaking of the fuel tables, and some work in the transmission files. The 11 second cars that I've worked on and tuned on, never differ a whole lot from a stock file. The stock pcm is much smarter than you think. It can really adapt well to various mods.
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This is really everything that's wrong with the internet. "I don't have any first hand experience however I'm going to speak as if I'm an expert". You basically just admitted you have no experience with the PCMs you're criticizing nor any experience with the scanning app.

I mean this in the most polite way possible: What makes you think you're qualified to speak on a topic you apparently know next to nothing about and then when corrected on your ignorance by those that do have hands on experience you just double down and repeat the same mis-guided assumptions all over again?
Whoa settle spaz it wasn't meant to be a pissing match at all. I said I have HPT an Aeroforce and a wideband. I never said it wouldn't work if I did please show me where I said it wouldn't work. Id rather trust a dyno tuned car using a damn scan gauge or HPTuner vs some phone app. That's just me. Just my opinion just like I think Iphones are garbage too is that a big deal?

Did I say I was a qualified expert too? Hmmm maybe your assuming that I did. I mentioned what I have and what I use and out right said that I havn't used the magical shit people used in 1999 for scanning.

I asked because I don't know. The weight of a PA effect the shit from assploding?

If the OP was scanning what was it doing did it knock? how bad? what was the AF? what were the fuel trims? ect. ect.

I wasn't calling you out chill spaz. Im saying there are BETTER ways to do shit this isn't fucking 1999 anymore.....
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Tentative plan as of now..

Low mile salvage s2 w/ gen3 , slap my cam on in there and new rollmaster, 90s and find someone to tune it.

I don't know of anyone who does besides late model throttle up in Waukesha.
Or save yourself a whole lotta work/headache

just put headers on it, bolt-ons, sell the VS and make as much as you would with the cam, tuned or not

Unless you run some decent supporting mods with the VS, literally it probably isn't doing much for you, both in power or even for burble sound

Maybe if you switched to e85 and pulley'd down, ic etc, would a custom tune really be worth it
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Sound was ok.

Cold idle..



Warm idle..



0-90 pull..

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This is also resonator delete, cat delete, sd headers in these videos.
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I used a ls1m with palm pilot to scan my first gtp, and I loved that. Until they came out with aeroforce, I wanted another because it was so handy. Nothing wrong with the phone app either. It's just reading information that the pcm has.

Nothing wrong with a zzp tune on a car. It bugs me when I see people talk down upon them on all the Facebook groups. I've seen a lot of different canned tunes over the years, and they are all almost identical. They have the fuel cuts removed, so slight tweaking of the fuel tables, and some work in the transmission files. The 11 second cars that I've worked on and tuned on, never differ a whole lot from a stock file. The stock pcm is much smarter than you think. It can really adapt well to various mods.
Case and point the people bitching about using 42# injectors on stock tune to run E85? Seems to me people have done it. Does it work yes. Is it perfect no. Are there better ways? yes.

NEVER did I say a damn canned tune wouldn't work. Just said personally I wouldn't trust it. Especially if all a person is using is a phone app. No wide band? No gauge?

@Mook nailed it how many pages ago? Wideband and aeroforce should be 1st purchases on ANY boosted car. Again just my 2 cents don't anyone get all ass hurt I have a different opinion. LOL

Disclaimer: None of this is aimed @GTPpower just quoted for an example.
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I want to avoid E85. Smells like piss and there's not many places up here that sell it.
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I did a supercharger install on my buddy's FRS and he has it running e85. Terrible. I'll never forget that smell. Blech.
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I actually threw the clothes away that ended up soaked in it.
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If only the m90 looked that pretty.

Car needs more lsx.
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Corn+2.8 scream @ WOT + burnouts = music for the soul!!!!!!!

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12.9 on the stock turanzas , car made me reconsider even building my boat..but I said fuck it.
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Stupid FRS/BRZ should have been boosted from the factory! That is absolutely best mod imo for those cars..... Because SC TQ!!
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