3800 Zzp fails are bad enough somebody made a whole group about it.

[sktchy]

You have to join it to see anything but this is hilarious. Marking up and rebranding Alibaba and china parts, bad tunes and fighting with customers over it, bullshit hp numbers, that's just the stuff I breezed through quick. Looks like mostly sonic related but it still applies.

I'm not usually one to try and bash anybody but after the issues I've had with their "flow matched" injectors, high pressure oil bypass spring that killed at least 3 bottom ends by being 3mm too short (bo offered to replace it, fuck my engines though) and don't even get me started on their 3800 fbody toon, this made my morning

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[Mook]

Looks like the group is public. Scrolling through.

 

[GTPpower]

Lol. Zooomer's in the group.

 

[Mook]

Damn, Zoomer is even on there commenting back.

 

[Mook]

Treed

 

[sktchy]

It was some pretty good entertainment for the morning. Granted I'm sure a lot of it is poorly built shit but it's still funny ?

 

[Fish]

Man some of you younglings would never have survived the great INTENSE war. ??

I’ll take a gander.

 

[sktchy]

I missed out on a lot of good things ? I'm just glad I found this place with some dudes that know what they're doing

 

[GTPpower]

Looking back at zzp vs intense, it's surprising no one was killed over it.

 

[Fish]

Looking back at zzp vs intense, it's surprising no one was killed over it.

There was an IDD where Ed Morad and Zoom were going back and forth after Ed blew up on the track. Almost came to blows iirc. ZZP crew were asked to leave and they did.

I was standing 10 feet away when Zoom also confronted the guy that messed with his car at GPG04 as well. I thought I was going to see a murder in front of me. Zoom just stared then walked away. Level heads prevailed.

For as much shit that happened, you are right. No one luckily got hurt or even fought. The fights were normally with the smaller local groups. Or random people walking into the parking lot talking shit.

 

[sktchy]

I mean, I've never had a single issue with anything from intense. Turba tim from zzp flat told me their injectors are "close enough" when I asked about them being flow tested after having at least 2 of them be junk out of the box. One even melted ?

Not to mention my car pinning itself at 10.0 afr and them not giving a shit to look into their tune at all beyond a maf flash (told me my car was just junk) so I had to learn how to do it my damn self

 

[Fish]

Someone needs to explain that the majority of the cost is the transmission. ???

 

[Fish]

I mean, I've never had a single issue with anything from intense. Turba tim from zzp flat told me their injectors are "close enough" when I asked about them being flow tested after having at least 2 of them be junk out of the box. One even melted ?

Not to mention my car pinning itself at 10.0 afr and them not giving a shit to look into their tune at all beyond a maf flash (told me my car was just junk) so I had to learn how to do it my damn self

It sucks for sure, but I’d rather be out a couple short blocks vs a couple built INTENSE transmissions due to their gen 2 diff.

 

[sktchy]

It sucks for sure, but I’d rather be out a couple short blocks vs a couple built INTENSE transmissions due to their gen 2 diff.

That's fair. I haven't had to deal with the fwd trans issues so far and if I do I'll either ask you guys how to do it right or have it done right at the transmission shop. I've got one "good" one and one with a broken bell housing to play with someday

 

[sktchy]

It does look like a lot of uneducated people in that group but if they wanna sell parts they need to better explain to their customers

 

[GTPpower]

Most of that group appears to be self-inflicted damage.

It's so funny when people claim zzp parts are expensive.

 

[sktchy]

Their prices on ngk plugs especially if they're having a sale are pretty fn decent. Like 2 bucks a piece I think. Shame that delcos are life.

 

[sktchy]

The other thing I have to remember a lot is they're pretty stuck to the wbody platform, and I have an f and h body so theres definitely some quirks and differences that they really don't care about. Prices to be paid for going outside the box.

 

[Fish]

Their prices on ngk plugs especially if they're having a sale are pretty fn decent. Like 2 bucks a piece I think. Shame that delcos are life.

Autolite 104s and 103s aren’t a thing anymore?

 

[sktchy]

Autolite 104s and 103s aren’t a thing anymore?

They are but I've never really been a fan. I don't really like the ngks either but they're cheap and they get the job done if you don't mind misfires.

 

[Fish]

They are but I've never really been a fan. I don't really like the ngks either but they're cheap and they get the job done if you don't mind misfires.

I haven’t bought them in forever but a pack of 6 104s was like, $10?

 

[sktchy]

I haven’t bought them in forever but a pack of 6 104s was like, $10?

I'd honestly have to look. I think the ngks were 12 and I paid 25 or 30 for genuine Delco 41 101s off eBay. Supposedly ngk makes them anyway but I get idle misses without delcos in it and anybody that tells you that you need a lower heat range to avoid knock is out of their mind

 

[Turbocharged400sbc]

20k for 600hp 3800? Or ecotec?

I use their stuff. Some.

104s/103s fo lyfe

 

[Pro Stock John]

Mook are you originally a 3800 guy?

 

[Ron Vogel]

It’s a limited market, and I knew that at the time…but the audacity to blatantly rip off a few of my designs back in the day really pissed me off. Wasn’t even about the money