Help Wanted Who can install a ceiling fan?

[Fish]

 

[torquelover]

I’ve eaten more voltage than everyone on this forum combined X10 and I’m only alive due to blind luck. Turn off the breaker every time. 110 can kill you given the right circumstances, the right circumstances can be as easy as how you touch the wires and whether your body contracts into the voltage or away from it. If your involuntary contraction pushes you into the circuit and the circuit breaker doesn’t work you cook and you cook slowly, meaning you know you’re going to die and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Macho tough guy bullshit gets you killed.

There’s some truth to this. I shut down an entire building and then the adjacent building breaker as well going to work on some industrial motors. Got zapped and couldn’t let go. If I wasn’t around anyone else I’d be a goner.

Turns out power was being fed (illegally) from an adjacent building, across property lines.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

In a modern home, I would agree 100%.

In the old houses that have had DIY hacks wiring shit all fucked up? Knock it all down if you're a newbie.

I've seen hot/neutral combinations from 2 different panels lol

Just have a volt detection stick. If you're a newbie, triple check with tools designed for that.

 

[Huggerorange73]

Just have a volt detection stick. If you're a newbie, triple check with tools designed for that.

I don't trust those inductive sensors.

 

[SMRTSS1]

Here’s what happens when a voltage detector fails and shows no voltage and I get 7KV through my arms and chest and it blows me off a ladder. Had the voltage not made my biceps contract and pull into my chest I would’ve been dead the day after my birthday in 2018. Everyone I know in the power side of utilities all said I should’ve died that day. I test both my voltage detectors every morning and still double and triple check before every step.

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Imagine how fast a ceiling fan would spin with a 7KV line feeding it. Fucker would achieve orbit.

 

[cdh027]

Here’s what happens when a voltage detector fails and shows no voltage and I get 7KV through my arms and chest and it blows me off a ladder. Had the voltage not made my biceps contract and pull into my chest I would’ve been dead the day after my birthday in 2018. Everyone I know in the power side of utilities all said I should’ve died that day. I test both my voltage detectors every morning and still double and triple check before every step.

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Holy shit! Who took the picture of the line smoking if you were also smoking?

 

[Blownbyyou]

I don't trust those inductive sensors.

Agreed, get a meter…

It’s not the voltage that kills you, it’s amperage…

But back on topic, if you can change a mass air flow sensor you can handle a ceiling fan

 

[SMRTSS1]

Holy shit! Who took the picture of the line smoking if you were also smoking?

I took the pic after coming down the ladder (I only fell down a few steps) and waiting on an energized ladder for my partner to get a rubber mat for me to jump onto. Would’ve really sucked to live through the initial arch just to die by stepping off the ladder onto the ground. More luck on my behalf that the ground was only minimally energized.

ComEd let that line cook for almost 2 weeks until a Comcast customer 600’ away called in that their siding was melting off their house near the raceway where the utilities comes in.

 

[cdh027]

I took the pic after coming down the ladder (I only fell down a few steps) and waiting on an energized ladder for my partner to get a rubber mat for me to jump onto. Would’ve really sucked to live through the initial arch just to die by stepping off the ladder onto the ground. More luck on my behalf that the ground was only minimally energized.

ComEd let that line cook for almost 2 weeks until a Comcast customer 600’ away called in that their siding was melting off their house near the raceway where the utilities comes in.

Yea, not sure how your heart handled 7,000V with no damage. You are extremely lucky.

edit: I guess people do survive 100,000V from a lightning strike which is unbelievable as well. I know they say it's the current that kills not the voltage, but still.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Here’s what happens when a voltage detector fails and shows no voltage and I get 7KV through my arms and chest and it blows me off a ladder. Had the voltage not made my biceps contract and pull into my chest I would’ve been dead the day after my birthday in 2018. Everyone I know in the power side of utilities all said I should’ve died that day. I test both my voltage detectors every morning and still double and triple check before every step.

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That's why you hook up the fan in the house, not directly to the power lines.

 

[Milhouse]

All this talk about getting bit or not and nobody has asked if that’s a fan rated j box?
Most likely it’s just a 1900 speed spiked to a floor joist with a fixture mud ring. Most likely not rated to handle a fan.

 

[Eugene Stoner]

All this talk about getting bit or not and nobody has asked if that’s a fan rated j box?
Most likely it’s just a 1900 speed spiked to a floor joist with a fixture mud ring. Most likely not rated to handle a fan.

You think TCG gives a shit about load ratings and electrical regulations?

Fuckin send her bud.

 

[blue-sun]

We replaced the chandelier in our foyer in this house a few months after we moved. It was sketchy AF. Many ladders were used. It was all hands on deck, we bought the longest board we could find and made a bridge to swap it out. Next time, I would pay someone to do it.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

We replaced the chandelier in our foyer in this house a few months after we moved. It was sketchy AF. Many ladders were used. It was all hands on deck, we bought the longest board we could find and made a bridge to swap it out. Next time, I would pay someone to do it. View attachment 159086

just need a big ass A-Frame

 

[blue-sun]

just need a big ass A-Frame

we have a big ass A frame. It wasn't tall enough to reach the ceiling in this foyer. We used it to support the wood plank beween the railing and the xmas nook above the door. It was sketchy AF.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

we have a big ass A frame. It wasn't tall enough to reach the ceiling in this foyer. We used it to support the wood plank beween the railing and the xmas nook above the door. It was sketchy AF.

need bigger

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

like this "A" instead of this "A"

 

[Shawn1112]

All this talk about getting bit or not and nobody has asked if that’s a fan rated j box?
Most likely it’s just a 1900 speed spiked to a floor joist with a fixture mud ring. Most likely not rated to handle a fan.

I have 4 ceiling fans in 1900 boxes as described and have had them for 20yrs with not one single issue. Yes I have had them on high

 

[LikeABauce302]

Just give it a little tug after installing and say "that's not going anywhere".

It'll be fine.

 

[cdh027]

Just give it a little tug after installing and say "that's not going anywhere".

It'll be fine.

Till it rips out of the ceiling on HI and decapitates your mother-in-law.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Just give it a little tug after installing and say "that's not going anywhere".

It'll be fine.

Do the "half hang from it" test...

Or if you are lucky and have a money goblin running around........"hey kid, come over here and hang on it". If they don't fall, mission accomplished.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Till it rips out of the ceiling on HI and decapitates your mother-in-law.

 

[radioguy6]

kill breaker, never work on hot shit no matter how badass you think you are. I've installed 4 of them in my house, all new work, no boxes existed, had attic access above. Fan rated boxes screwed to ceiling joists, not a 1900 box with 1 drywall screw holding it.

went with Hunter branded ceiling fans, the motor itself rests in a C plate that is screwed to the box, pretty easy to install them.

 

[Milhouse]

You think TCG gives a shit about load ratings and electrical regulations?

Fuckin send her bud.

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