What would you do; Spend my money
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This is why I asked what your planned timeframe of ownership is going to be.
If it's only going to be a couple years, a cheaper, strong stat sheet, and where not long term reliability isn't as critical on your checklist, this might be your ticket. But if you plan on owning it for many years...
He's like me. Owning it forever will be roundabout 18 months.
I always look at what I'm buying from a resale perspective. Are you going to have a hard time kicking the expo when the market share is dominated by its competitor? Is it going to follow the depreciation trend that all of its predecessors have followed? That's the kind of stuff that I typically look at when buying something north of $10,000 because I know myself all too well, and like you
Dasfinc we get bored, and I know we both don't like being pigeon holed into a sinking ship from a depreciation standpoint.
I always look at what I'm buying from a resale perspective. Are you going to have a hard time kicking the expo when the market share is dominated by its competitor? Is it going to follow the depreciation trend that all of its predecessors have followed? That's the kind of stuff that I typically look at when buying something north of $10,000 because I know myself all too well, and like you
Dasfinc we get bored, and I know we both don't like being pigeon holed into a sinking ship from a depreciation standpoint.
2014 Ford moved to a Mechanical load-leveling system away from Air, haven't read much into it past that.
Yea; it's a fully-loaded XLT, every box is Checked (Sunroof, Max Tow, 202A). There's a "Limited" one locally with the same mileage and options but they want $4000 more for it....
The Dealer can't articulate to me why their limited is worth 4,000 more than the loaded XLT other than Rain Sensing Windshield wipers and different wheels.... the MSRP was only $1200 different...
Interesting. Air could've been what was doing it. I'm not sure. I do know they're a good ride on the highway. I personally would be using a 3/4 ton to tow your camper, but I just like having overkill in the tow vehicle department. The major leap in 1500 towing capacities, along with much more "realistic" figures came with the 2015+ Subs, so I would say that's a safe bet. I have nothing bad to say about the Expeditions, simply because I have nothing at all to say about them. I do like how the SWB trucks look with all the paint matched bumpers and grille. I know that for sure.
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Literally can not make this shit up Regardless of how much I like to make fun of the resident GM leghumpers, I'd also go with a '15+ burb or tahoe. I wouldn't want a gen 1 EB personally.
Actually the opposite
But since the TCG GM nutswinging is in full force as with every ārecommend me a vehicleā thread, might as well get the 6.2.
... and Gomez does provide excellent Ford deals
I own six Ford trucks... Wasn't referring to you, was actually replying to
N20GT 's post.
All I can speak from is experience. I've probably towed more diverse loads with more vehicles than 90% of the weekend warriors out there. I've done a lot of that towing with 3/4 ton Suburbans and some lighter stuff with my 2001 Tahoe, 97 Suburban, etc. I've also done some with a '99 and 2008 Expedition and can tell you hands down that I would take any of the GM offerings over the Ford because it felt very unstable loaded down, especially of concern with a topheavy sail that most bumper pull campers are. Add in luggage, dogs and children and I'm pushing him towards what I felt the safest in towing with of the two. I actually jumped ship from GM and went to Ford because of the 07-14 Trucks, so if that makes me a nutswinger I'm swinging from three trees currently. Just speaking from my experience, which goes far beyond towing a car on an aluminum open trailer 30 miles to a racetrack in a Chevy 1500.
N20GT 's post.All I can speak from is experience. I've probably towed more diverse loads with more vehicles than 90% of the weekend warriors out there. I've done a lot of that towing with 3/4 ton Suburbans and some lighter stuff with my 2001 Tahoe, 97 Suburban, etc. I've also done some with a '99 and 2008 Expedition and can tell you hands down that I would take any of the GM offerings over the Ford because it felt very unstable loaded down, especially of concern with a topheavy sail that most bumper pull campers are. Add in luggage, dogs and children and I'm pushing him towards what I felt the safest in towing with of the two. I actually jumped ship from GM and went to Ford because of the 07-14 Trucks, so if that makes me a nutswinger I'm swinging from three trees currently. Just speaking from my experience, which goes far beyond towing a car on an aluminum open trailer 30 miles to a racetrack in a Chevy 1500.
Not sure what part Iām involved with, was just speaking to afm and itās failure vs success with a tune. I know nothing of the expedition so didnāt bother commenting on it because canāt speak to it one way or the other^^^
Regardless of how much I like to make fun of the resident GM leghumpers, I'd also go with a '15+ burb or tahoe. I wouldn't want a gen 1 EB personally.
I actually suggested YOUR truck as an option earlier though
Wasn't taking a shot at you. I just laugh at how you guys point out very real, common issues with these trucks, then cmntmxr recommends them anyways and says they're "proven and reliable", lol. Just ignore the trans issues, afm issues, oil consumption etcetc that was being discussed.Not sure what part Iām involved with, was just speaking to afm and itās failure vs success with a tune. I know nothing of the expedition so didnāt bother commenting on it because canāt speak to it one way or the other
I actually suggested YOUR truck as an option earlier though
I just like to write off GM for the bailout dark ages until their redesigns in 2015. I also run HD trucks that didnāt have any of the AFM, oil consumption, etc issues so that helps.
Theyāre all junk as far as Iām concerned. I was swearing by the 6.2 gas F-250/350ās and now Iām seeing the timing chain issues coming out of the woodwork.
Theyāre all junk as far as Iām concerned. I was swearing by the 6.2 gas F-250/350ās and now Iām seeing the timing chain issues coming out of the woodwork.
Aaaaaahhh gotcha. I mean I love gm vehicles but they have some real shitty issues for sure. Just need to either accept it as something thatāll need to be addressed or shop elsewhere.
every manufacturer has their shortcomings. Nothing is perfect. A friend is taking his EB f150 back in at the end of the month for cam phasers because of the terrible noises they make. Tech at the dealer said they finally have updated parts that fix the very common issue.
Basically this. Buy what you like and has a relatively average chance of failure. No manufacturer among the big 3 is more reliable than another, that's why I laugh when people turn a blind eye to all the fuckups of their "favorite" while laughing at everyone else. I drive a ford, shits gonna break, there's 82734982374983274 of them on the road, and they'll probably go bankrupt, but it looks good and it's fast for a stock truck so IDC.
Understand that, but the $1150/month combined car note for 72 mos is the sticker shock (that topic may make for a good separate thread)
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