đź“° Auto News Toyota sheds doubt on America killing combustion engines
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I'd be quite happy with transitioning with a hybrid gas/electric that could deliver on both performance and economy. Something like a Volt or Prius, but that was actually fun to drive. I realize that is difficult due to the weight and packaging of 2 separate power units. Something like the Accord Hybrid but with a little more oomph is actually appealing to me.
Coal is definitely going to continue decreasing, the only "non-renewable" growth would be in NG or nuclear.
well and the major part with most of these releases is not many ICE manufacturers (just MINI?) has said they are going to not sell any more ICE vehicles at all.
plenty of mild-hybrids out there- BMW style, as well as most announcements say they will stop developing new combustion engines. not stop making them all-together. i mean shit, aren't 496's still made for "off" applications? generators, boats, etc?
maybe not the most fun to drive, but more fun tod rive than a volt or prius id rekonn.... 30 miles on electric. 0-60 in 6 flat.
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I'm not scared of a second Chernobyl or anything like that, but storing the spent rods in massive underground concrete tombs for the next 1500 years is not very sustainable. The US is already starting to have issues with space for that stuff. Who knows, maybe that can be our more realistic long-term goal for Mars? ?
Piggy backing the infrastructure concerns, looking forward to EV charging from empty to full capacity in 5 mins like filling up a gasoline vehicle.
Toyota is just being real here, some of these goals are unrealistic and setting up for disappointment. My biggest concern is our grid infra, the unthinkable just happened in Texas and in California brownouts are normal part of life.
Also any talk about converting ocean cargo ships from bunker oil to electric or an alternative fuel? Is there an aggressive timeline for that? These are out of sight, out of mind but the only viable way to transport everything across continents, including all the green components, batteries, solar panels, windmills etc. I'm not against EVs or going "green", but there are many many more pieces to this puzzle and somedays I feel we are just expecting everything to fall in line perfectly.
Also any talk about converting ocean cargo ships from bunker oil to electric or an alternative fuel? Is there an aggressive timeline for that? These are out of sight, out of mind but the only viable way to transport everything across continents, including all the green components, batteries, solar panels, windmills etc. I'm not against EVs or going "green", but there are many many more pieces to this puzzle and somedays I feel we are just expecting everything to fall in line perfectly.
Good article, very accurate. About 2% of US vehicles are EV, and there is nowhere near enough charging infrastructure to handle even an increase to 5%.
A German neighbor of mine who is VW seconded to Navistar and I talked about this last fall, and he said he expects hybrids to increase sales much more so than EV for a variety of reasons.
But that said, there is a lot of innovation out there with respect to charging infrastructure... Companies like Ubitricity are working on street side charging:
A German neighbor of mine who is VW seconded to Navistar and I talked about this last fall, and he said he expects hybrids to increase sales much more so than EV for a variety of reasons.
But that said, there is a lot of innovation out there with respect to charging infrastructure... Companies like Ubitricity are working on street side charging:
Honestly, most of them don't need to. The public transit system is fucking incredible there. In almost all the big city's you can get to anywhere except for the rural stuff.
When I was in Japan during high school I regularly commuted an hour each way by train JUST to go to high school.
We'd leave the house in the morning, walk 15m to a train station, hop on a train for 30m, walk another 15m to school, and repeat on the way home.
Basically anyone who lives in an apartment complex, or anyone who street parks in a city need not apply for an electric car.
When my grey RS was totaled, I did actually investigate what it would take to get an electric charging station installed by my apartment. I ran the costs and everything. LL said Fuck No. So I said Fuck No to a Tesla.
Can you imagine how backed up just the current Gas pumps would be if everyone parked their car there for 30 minutes+ to charge? Just with gas cars alone, we don't have anywhere near enough gas pumps for cars to sit in on of those spots for 30m+.
Lines would be around the block like in the gas crisis.
Yeah good luck. A decade to completely revamp the US infrastructure system?
Who's gonna pay for it?
Unless you see some outrageous changes in technology, I don't see it happening. Maybe 25-50 years.
Who's gonna pay for it?
Unless you see some outrageous changes in technology, I don't see it happening. Maybe 25-50 years.
I know there are people here that are familiar with power grid from a purely operational standpoint - but is anyone here familiar with it from a SCADA/ICS security standpoint? It's scary. And it's even scarier to think that we want to rely on that system to power our transportation and logistics in the near future. It needs a serious revamp.
reminds me of this:
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Renting of almost *anything* is the future. You won’t own a car, you’ll just summon an electric car to pick you up and go where you need to. Then it’ll drive off to pick someone else up. Far less cars will be on the road so the infrastructure people think is needed won’t be near as large. Just my opinion.
I remember watching a documentary about spent nuclear fuel and they factored in the weight of the ice during the next ice age when designing the concrete tombs. Really made me double think the environmental impacts of nuclear.
I’ve been thinking about this whole EV revolution thing a lot and I agree with Toyota that many auto manufacturers are pushing insanely agressive target dates that they wanna go 100% EV by. I think Jaguar said they wanna be an all electric company by 2025. Literally gonna be so many bottlenecks. (And were already seeing them with the semiconductor chip shortage)
our only real option is nuclear. im looking forward to the new sperical Tokamak fussion plant designed to use the cheap ribbon superconductors MIT figured out.....gonna beat ITER to the punch id guess.
lb of pollution per megawatt, you cant beat nuclear.....it easy to trap and sequester nuclear byproducts than it is to try to scub Carbon, hydrogen sulfide, nitrides, methane, particulates out of the air
they wont do it on the big fuel burner plants, they dont wanna spend the $ on the equipment, theyd rather the hippy dippy population pay for the equipment in their cars to make em think like they are making a difference.
big picture there's no beating nuclear to get us off carbon. EV use increase will give big oil the ability to increase generating plant usage of fuels, they probably wont see much change in their demand between gas/electric so i dont think they care unless you propose building a nuclear plant....then the fear mongering begins
lb of pollution per megawatt, you cant beat nuclear.....it easy to trap and sequester nuclear byproducts than it is to try to scub Carbon, hydrogen sulfide, nitrides, methane, particulates out of the air
they wont do it on the big fuel burner plants, they dont wanna spend the $ on the equipment, theyd rather the hippy dippy population pay for the equipment in their cars to make em think like they are making a difference.
big picture there's no beating nuclear to get us off carbon. EV use increase will give big oil the ability to increase generating plant usage of fuels, they probably wont see much change in their demand between gas/electric so i dont think they care unless you propose building a nuclear plant....then the fear mongering begins
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