The US could end up running on gasoline forever, leaving electric vehicles to China and Europe

[Yaj Yak]

Z ZOOMER doesn't like this

 

[Yaj Yak]

Why worry about switching batteries when you can get a huge amount of usable range in a short amount of time. Honestly, if you could get say, 200 miles in 10 minutes would you consider that good? Or since it’s marginally slower than a gas pump would you still say not good enough?

The real mindfuck that people can’t wrap their heads around is that your car has a “full tank” every time you leave the house. So unless you go 150 miles each way to work and home you’ll be fine without “filling up”. Here’s how far you can go without charging

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but then what when you get 200 miles away

sweet. can i plug into this cabin i rented? no. neat. k

 

[Flyn]

Plug into your mobile solar charger and you can drive home in about a month.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Just bring 200 miles of extension cord...

 

[Stink Star]

but then what when you get 200 miles away

sweet. can i plug into this cabin i rented? no. neat. k

That’s the beauty of the supercharger network. It’s strategically placed along major arteries so that there’s always one in rage wherever you are. A quick stop there and you can make it to the next one no problem.

 

[Yaj Yak]

That’s the beauty of the supercharger network. It’s strategically placed along major arteries so that there’s always one in rage wherever you are. A quick stop there and you can make it to the next one no problem.

did you miss my post about this last time? about how even traveling along the SWEET SUPERCHARGER NETWORK would add a significant amount of time to any of the typical "journeys" i do?

 

[Yaj Yak]

I used the wrong car, you're right. Had Model X plugged in. but 68*


now i have model s 75 like yours, 25* outside, dry roads... 10 hrs 50 minutes.

Changed "max speed" to 75 mph, got back 10:50 hours.

It says "max speed" not average or constant speed [MENTION=11218]lastls1[/MENTION].

.

 

[Yaj Yak]

i can't imagine aiming for like minocqua, eagle river, whatever, two super popular vacay destinations, and having to make sure i charge the fuck out of my car before i get north... then hoping i dont drive around too much and can make it back to wausau.

ive said it once ive said it again, as a second or third vehicle, sure... in the future once there's WAY more charging stations, aight... right now? fuck all of that for an "only" vehicle.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

How long does it take at a supercharger? I honestly forget how much quicker it is than a regular charger.

Lets say you're down to 1/4 battery (the same as a 1/4 tank of gas), and filling up to full.

 

[Stink Star]

Keep in mind that is with the gen 2 chargers.... the version 3 chargers can go 100kw better than that. Now admittedly they aren’t deployed widespread, but will be eventually. Can charge at 1000 MPH

 

[Stink Star]

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i can't imagine aiming for like minocqua, eagle river, whatever, two super popular vacay destinations, and having to make sure i charge the fuck out of my car before i get north... then hoping i dont drive around too much and can make it back to wausau.

ive said it once ive said it again, as a second or third vehicle, sure... in the future once there's WAY more charging stations, aight... right now? fuck all of that for an "only" vehicle.

I’d imagine that if a person had a cabin out there and had a Tesla they would likely install a wall connector and be able to charge fully overnight

keep in mind though, most people don’t have a cabin out in the wilderness that they visit weekly so it usually isn’t an issue

 

[Stink Star]

How long does it take at a supercharger? I honestly forget how much quicker it is than a regular charger.

Lets say you're down to 1/4 battery (the same as a 1/4 tank of gas), and filling up to full.

The 90-100% charge would be slow but 25 to 80-90 would take like 20ish minutes at a version 2, much less on a version 3

 

[CMNTMXR57]

And those two versions are superchargers, right? Not just the regular destination charger types.

20 minutes isn't bad.

 

[Yaj Yak]

I’d imagine that if a person had a cabin out there and had a Tesla they would likely install a wall connector and be able to charge fully overnight

keep in mind though, most people don’t have a cabin out in the wilderness that they visit weekly so it usually isn’t an issue

That's totally different than what I said.

I'm saying just going on vacation north. Not to a personally owned home.

Shit. PANDA goes 26 times per year.

 

[Stink Star]

That's totally different than what I said.

I'm saying just going on vacation north. Not to a personally owned home.

Shit. PANDA goes 26 times per year.

Yea but he just takes the private plane now ?

 

[sickmint79]

Why worry about switching batteries when you can get a huge amount of usable range in a short amount of time. Honestly, if you could get say, 200 miles in 10 minutes would you consider that good? Or since it’s marginally slower than a gas pump would you still say not good enough?

The real mindfuck that people can’t wrap their heads around is that your car has a “full tank” every time you leave the house. So unless you go 150 miles each way to work and home you’ll be fine without “filling up”. Here’s how far you can go without charging

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200 mi in 10 min is pretty good. i agree most people don't factor in the near/fully charged out of their garage. your radius isn't factoring in roads or traffic or heating/cooling your human meat cargo

 

[Flyn]

 

[zenriddles]

Just a quip here.

I have recently changed employers but stayed in the same field. My travel has been modified from USA, Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean in airplanes to Central USA in mostly cars.

I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that California had the most Tesla's in my previous experiences. San Fran and LA being the highest sightings for me.

BUT. I will say this - I have seen a LOT more Tesla's in the greater Chicago region than I have ever seen before in my last 4 weeks of driving around just this area.

I don't want one, but I cannot deny they are definitely increasing their population on the road in this area.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

There are a ton of them in the St. Charles/Geneva area.

 

[Stink Star]

I see probably 10 different Teslas every day driving to work and home between Woodstock and crystal lake

 

[Gone_2022]

Also for those of you worried about the electric Grid. Charging your Tesla at home is really no different than having your home AC on or if you have an electric dryer. A lot of people I know use a 30 amp dryer style plug. Or if you drive very little or have access to charging at work as well you can simply plug it into the 120v outlet and get about 50 miles back overnight.

It honestly isn’t much different than the things we already have in our homes. It’s not like people have superchargers in their garages.

 

[Gone_2022]

Also if down the road it ever suddenly becomes an issue, most likely Tesla has already thought of it. Hence why they are also an energy company. Selling solar roofs, mega solar battery stations and home power walls.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Also for those of you worried about the electric Grid. Charging your Tesla at home is really no different than having your home AC on or if you have an electric dryer. A lot of people I know use a 30 amp dryer style plug. Or if you drive very little or have access to charging at work as well you can simply plug it into the 120v outlet and get about 50 miles back overnight.

It honestly isn’t much different than the things we already have in our homes. It’s not like people have superchargers in their garages.

Yes, but my dryer isn't running all night.

 

[Gone_2022]

Then use my A/C example. In the summer I hear people’s running all the time. During the day in the peak use.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Of course this turned in to a tesla love/hate thread

Also if down the road it ever suddenly becomes an issue, most likely Tesla has already thought of it. Hence why they are also an energy company. Selling solar roofs, mega solar battery stations and home power walls.

Doesn't matter what they've thought of if they can't monetize it. Which goes back to my post on the second page.

Without billions of dollars in federal subsidies, Tesla would have gone bankrupt long ago