⚡ EV Tesla Cybertruck

[CMNTMXR57]

For what reason is a ridgeline more functional than a cybertruck? The cybertruck has both a lower and higher suspension, storage under the bed, a larger bed than full sized pickups, 4 wheel steering, can undoubtedly tow more, way faster… etc…. Of course it’s more expensive but these days a ridgeline is flirting with $50k so it’s not exactly cheap either

Here is the difference that Elon and Tesla fanboi's don't seem to grasp. Towing isn't about speed or acceleration numbers like those silly videos of the Tesla semi whipping past diesel 18 wheelers up a grade in the mountains... It's about slow and steady... Over the long haul, the ICE powered tow vehicle will be to it's destination long before a battery powered one will and it's time to recharge.

I'll take a gas/diesel powered truck over this anytime for towing. Yea, you'll blow past me in the mountains with all that amazing power, but after you do that and you are sitting in a recharging place on the other side of the mountain for 3 hours recharging, I'll just smile and wave as I breeze right on by. And I know my ICE will still be running in 20 years.

 

[Mook]

We've been through this before. He bought controlling interest of the company when they were still years away from actually building anything. Bought in in 2004 and they didn't make their first car until 2008, with the first mass-produced car in 2012.

So yeah he damn near started from zero, they certainly weren't manufacturing anything when he bought in.

Suck his diyock harder.

 

[Jimbo]

Here is the difference that Elon and Tesla fanboi's don't seem to grasp. Towing isn't about speed or acceleration numbers like those silly videos of the Tesla semi whipping past diesel 18 wheelers up a grade in the mountains... It's about slow and steady... Over the long haul, the ICE powered tow vehicle will be to it's destination long before a battery powered one will and it's time to recharge.

I'll take a gas/diesel powered truck over this anytime for towing. Yea, you'll blow past me in the mountains with all that amazing power, but after you do that and you are sitting in a recharging place on the other side of the mountain for 3 hours recharging, I'll just smile and wave as I breeze right on by. And I know my ICE will still be running in 20 years.

It'd be interesting to compare basic tire and brake maintenance costs on the EV trucks as well. Being heavier vehicles, they'll be chewing through more tires and brakes faster than most other trucks out there.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

The Pontiac Aztec of trucks

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Using regenerative braking too I suppose.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Here is the difference that Elon and Tesla fanboi's don't seem to grasp. Towing isn't about speed or acceleration numbers like those silly videos of the Tesla semi whipping past diesel 18 wheelers up a grade in the mountains... It's about slow and steady... Over the long haul, the ICE powered tow vehicle will be to it's destination long before a battery powered one will and it's time to recharge.

I'll take a gas/diesel powered truck over this anytime for towing. Yea, you'll blow past me in the mountains with all that amazing power, but after you do that and you are sitting in a recharging place on the other side of the mountain for 3 hours recharging, I'll just smile and wave as I breeze right on by. And I know my ICE will still be running in 20 years.

The rivian has great range yet FLT went from Boulder to the mountains towing and had to recharge

 

[Jimbo]

Using regenerative braking too I suppose.

Watching Tesla Plaids brake fade, I can only imagine towing with your Cybertruck in the mountains

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Now, this will change as battery tech and charging tech improves. But we aren't there yet.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Here is the difference that Elon and Tesla fanboi's don't seem to grasp. Towing isn't about speed or acceleration numbers like those silly videos of the Tesla semi whipping past diesel 18 wheelers up a grade in the mountains... It's about slow and steady... Over the long haul, the ICE powered tow vehicle will be to it's destination long before a battery powered one will and it's time to recharge.

I'll take a gas/diesel powered truck over this anytime for towing. Yea, you'll blow past me in the mountains with all that amazing power, but after you do that and you are sitting in a recharging place on the other side of the mountain for 3 hours recharging, I'll just smile and wave as I breeze right on by. And I know my ICE will still be running in 20 years.

Nobody will ever use this thing to tow, but tesla fanboys that have never towed anything in their life will still brag about its towing ability.

I tow a small enclosed trailer with my SUV, not very far (most tracks are 150-200 miles away), and let me tell you having a 17.5 gallon tank at 10mpg sucks balls. fucking thing reads zero range by 150 miles because it's super conservative.

Refueling that often sucks as it is, never in a million years would I be OK with recharging that often.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Suck his diyock harder.

am I wrong?

 

[Stink Star]

every pic i've seen of the cybertruck bed has it look tiny as fuck?

View attachment 184808

ridgeline has underbed storage as well.

View attachment 184806


50k? i mean kinda?

View attachment 184805




does anyone actually care about 4 wheel steering? i mean these vehicles aren't big enough for it to matter, are they? or can people just really not drive

View attachment 184807

The bed is over 4 feet wide and longer than the bed in a ridgeline. It also has under bed storage. The bed is bigger than the best selling F150 bed but the vehicle length is only 19 feet so it can fit in a standard garage.

4 wheel steering is great, the more maneuverability the better when it comes to trucks.

As far as reaching over the side? Full sized trucks are so tall now that there’s nobody doing that anyway. And that’s before truck bros add the huge tires and lift kits.

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Nobody will ever use this thing to tow, but tesla fanboys that have never towed anything in their life will still brag about its towing ability.

I tow a small enclosed trailer with my SUV, not very far (most tracks are 150-200 miles away), and let me tell you having a 17.5 gallon tank at 10mpg sucks balls. fucking thing reads zero range by 150 miles because it's super conservative.

Refueling that often sucks as it is, never in a million years would I be OK with recharging that often.

I was gonna add to my original comment, but didn't want to start an even bigger battle, that none of these Cybertruck fans have actually towed anything of substance, so they have zero clue what having 5,000, 8,000, 10,000 pounds or more behind them REALLY feels like and how it reacts to starting, stopping, turning changes.

Let alone recharging the damn thing.

 

[Mook]

am I wrong?

I don't care either way. Just needed something to do while pooping

 

[Jimbo]

I guess I haven't added this one here yet....

 

[Stink Star]

I would never accept a vehicle with misaligned panels like that. Crazy!

But the ones going to customers have been really good looking as far as I can see. These RC trucks aren’t representative of the actual production fit and finish

 

[CMNTMXR57]

As far as reaching over the side? Full sized trucks are so tall now that there’s nobody doing that anyway. And that’s before truck bros add the huge tires and lift kits.

This is true, however, the bed on a pickup, or even the Ridgeline is at the same level all the way around. It doesn't have an angled wall that scales up to the top of the vehicle, which will make loading and tieing down a colossal bitch for it's owners. At least the conventional trucks have side steps, or other means of standing on the truck to get a higher perspective too.

 

[Stink Star]

I was gonna add to my original comment, but didn't want to start an even bigger battle, that none of these Cybertruck fans have actually towed anything of substance, so they have zero clue what having 5,000, 8,000, 10,000 pounds or more behind them REALLY feels like and how it reacts to starting, stopping, turning changes.

Let alone recharging the damn thing.

Most people with any truck haven’t towed that much. Hell, I’ve owned 2 trucks in my life and the biggest thing I’ve ever towed was a quad about 30 miles and a parade float going 5mph. I know everybody here has enclosed race car trailers and go to Floridia with their cigarette boat every month in the summer, but that’s hardly common with the average truck buyer who just wants to be able to pick up a big box at Home Depot every now and then

 

[Stink Star]

This is true, however, the bed on a pickup, or even the Ridgeline is at the same level all the way around. It doesn't have an angled wall that scales up to the top of the vehicle, which will make loading and tieing down a colossal bitch for its owners. At least the conventional trucks have side steps, or other means of standing on the truck to get a higher perspective too.

You’re not wrong.
It’ll be interesting to see how low you can set the suspension on the CT to make the bed accessible from the side though

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Most people with any truck haven’t towed that much. Hell, I’ve owned 2 trucks in my life and the biggest thing I’ve ever towed was a quad about 30 miles and a parade float going 5mph. I know everybody here has enclosed race car trailers and go to Floridia with their cigarette boat every month in the summer, but that’s hardly common with the average truck buyer who just wants to be able to pick up a big box at Home Depot every now and then

Yet, I bet most here, myself included have. And we're telling you the reality.

 

[Stink Star]

Yet, I bet most here, myself included have. And we're telling you the reality.

That’s what I’m saying though. The people here are the extreme minority of truck buyers. This is after all an enthusiast forum. Most people don’t give a shit about what they drive and just get a ford or Chevy because that’s what paw paw used to drive

 

[Jimbo]

You’re not wrong.
It’ll be interesting to see how low you can set the suspension on the CT to make the bed accessible from the side though

I did love that about my Ram 2500 w/ rear air. I could dump all of the air out and the bed was literally at the height of my wife's Mercedes suv.

 

[Yaj Yak]

The bed is over 4 feet wide and longer than the bed in a ridgeline. It also has under bed storage. The bed is bigger than the best selling F150 bed but the vehicle length is only 19 feet so it can fit in a standard garage.

4 wheel steering is great, the more maneuverability the better when it comes to trucks.

As far as reaching over the side? Full sized trucks are so tall now that there’s nobody doing that anyway. And that’s before truck bros add the huge tires and lift kits.

it's more than 4 feet wide at the floor here? seriously?

ridgeline is 50" wide between the wheel wells.



The bed is bigger than the best selling F150 bed

is there anything to back this up anywhere? Is this with the midgate down or no?

4-wheel steering is unnecessary. as GM found out 20 years ago. this thing isn't big enough to warrant it as a necessity, again, it's a novelty here. just like most of this vehicle.

reaching over the side? everyone is doing that. that's why bed steps extend to the front of the bed, or pickups have them built into the bed. yes bed sides and trucks have gotten slightly taller (not significantly though really... as most if not all HD 4x4 trucks are still under 7' tall overall)

if you have a pickup, and use it half-assedly as a truck, at SOME point you're undoutedbly going to want to reach over the front of the bed to grab something at the front of the bed, rather than climbing into it.

 

[Yaj Yak]

You’re not wrong.
It’ll be interesting to see how low you can set the suspension on the CT to make the bed accessible from the side though

seriously? I mean short of the cybertruck tucking tires and resting it's flat underside completely on the ground, it's not happening. and even then it's still a wall to reach over.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Most people with any truck haven’t towed that much. Hell, I’ve owned 2 trucks in my life and the biggest thing I’ve ever towed was a quad about 30 miles and a parade float going 5mph. I know everybody here has enclosed race car trailers and go to Floridia with their cigarette boat every month in the summer, but that’s hardly common with the average truck buyer who just wants to be able to pick up a big box at Home Depot every now and then

this is the part that you lost me with though- you state it's plenty functional "as a truck" earlier, then just describe not using a vehicle as a truck, really ever. why even order one of these?


when i had my last pickup truck... more than 25% of the miles at this point below, were towing... I know that's not quite going to floridia with my cigarette boat every month in the summer, but i really wasn't too extreme at all with my usage.

alright so i'm about 16,600 miles in, 300 days.

of those miles, around 4200 are towing miles.

the built in trailering app is fucking AWESOME. i love how it recalls what trailer i have connected and it's correct trailer brake settings.

if i had my own camper trailer/enclosed, the trailer TPMS sensors would be sweet too for big trips. also, the trailer maintenance reminders are sweet since the truck knows how many miles what trailer has on it.



The one trip I reset when I got the truck, as it was driven to the dealer, so avg mpg since I've had it is 14.9... But again. 25% of those miles are trailering.

Avg speed is 41 mph.

Best "last 50 mile" mpg is 26.7 but was a hero run on Rt 41 where it's flat af at 67mph.

I typically see 17.5-19.5 right now driving "typical" during the week.

View attachment 61291

View attachment 61292

View attachment 61293

View attachment 61294

View attachment 61295

View attachment 61296

View attachment 61297

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Not able to copy/paste the article…. But:

Even In Matte Black, The Tesla Cybertruck Still Looks Like Crap

If this prototype is indicative of the production Cybertruck's build quality, it's going to be a disaster.

jalopnik.com