God I love this forum. It's like taking a peak back into 2009.
Yeah member when you drove a 3800 like the rest of us then you turned into a hippie?
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God I love this forum. It's like taking a peak back into 2009.
Stick around more and change that.
A bit of Tesla news I just came across.
U.S. will look at sudden acceleration complaints involving 500,000 Tesla vehicles
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said Friday it will review a petition asking the agency to formally investigate and recall 500,000 Tesla Inc vehicles over sudden unintended acceleration reports.www.reuters.com
No fun engaging in debate with people who's minds are made up. And I'm not saying that because I'm butthurt. Truly I don't care. I'm a person that likes to debate though and some of the arguments tossed around here are so primitive and/ or purposely slanted that you can see the bias right away and that just sucks the fun out of it. Other times people just completely ignore anything that disagrees with their own narrative. So something is said, something is debunked and then it's not like that person comes back and says "gee, I never thought of it that way!". But you know they read the response. And then a week later that same person will post some clickbait article about some made up problem that would have taken them approximately 18 seconds to research themselves.
It's not a TCG thing. It's the state of modern discourse in general. People completely lost the ability to debate. People lost the ability to see nuance. Everything is black and white. For or against. Whether it's Tesla, electric cars, politics, choice of baseball team, the way you wipe your ass...
There is no “unintended acceleration” in Tesla vehicles
The Tesla TeamJanuary 20, 2020
This petition is completely false and was brought by a Tesla short-seller. We investigate every single incident where the driver alleges to us that their vehicle accelerated contrary to their input, and in every case where we had the vehicle's data, we confirmed that the car operated as designed. In other words, the car accelerates if, and only if, the driver told it to do so, and it slows or stops when the driver applies the brake.
While accidents caused by a mistaken press of the accelerator pedal have been alleged for nearly every make/model of vehicle on the road, the accelerator pedals in Model S, X and 3 vehicles have two independent position sensors, and if there is any error, the system defaults to cut off motor torque. Likewise, applying the brake pedal simultaneously with the accelerator pedal will override the accelerator pedal input and cut off motor torque, and regardless of the torque, sustained braking will stop the car. Unique to Tesla, we also use the Autopilot sensor suite to help distinguish potential pedal misapplications and cut torque to mitigate or prevent accidents when we’re confident the driver’s input was unintentional. Each system is independent and records data, so we can examine exactly what happened.
We are transparent with NHTSA, and routinely review customer complaints of unintended acceleration with them. Over the past several years, we discussed with NHTSA the majority of the complaints alleged in the petition. In every case we reviewed with them, the data proved the vehicle functioned properly.
Maybe I'm stupid, but, shares do not mean entire net worth of something. Right?
Per the internet, which is never wrong, Ford is worth over 140B.
GM is worth nearly 140B.
Either way, good for Tesla.
as of today GM is worth 50.86B
And ford is worth 36.32B
Tesla is worth 92.02B
It’s their market capitalization. I’m sure if GM or Ford included that as well as liquidating all their assets it would be higher
where's sickmint79 at to pimp slap us all into oblivion with facts figures and sweet charts and a lil sasss
that was too short and not nearly enough figures or charts.
tesla is not valued like a car company, it's valued like a tech company
Why?
Not all fanboyism. Major trading firms keep upgrading their stock price outlooks and that invigorates traders.a little bit of new tech fetishism
a real possibility for some strongly valuable self-driving tech
fanboy enthusiasm
Curious - I found a charge that showed the timeline of Tesla's worth.
From May to December at their peak of 90ish billion, they increase nearly 40B in a matter of months. How does that work, considering their sales of every vehicle doesn't relfect that? Is it truly only the market/stock?
China’s imports of US vehicles will increase from the roughly $10 billion exported in the baseline year to $20 billion in 2020 and more in 2021.
While Tesla had slightly over 1% US market share in 2018, it accounted for roughly 10% of US vehicle exports to China measured in units, and an even higher percentage when measured in dollars.