Terrible crash in mchenry at starbucks on Rt 120
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Like I said, a few of my friends in family, in Illinois, had seizures. I don't know where you are getting stroke from, since the police didn't release the medical cause. And no, no one can know when or how a medical emergency will happen. But the state can take away your license temporarily, based on a doctors recommendation after a medical incident, if you are at a higher risk while driving of causing an accident. No one said permanently.
Boosted guy is actually the one that said to take his license away.
I read somewhere the cause was a stroke. Trying to find the link.
Either way, anyone that has a medical emergency should not have their license revoked. Period.
Personally, if I had a stroke or significant medical emergency I'd probably stop driving or sell both my cars and buy something like a Tesla as it's semi-autonomous. I couldn't live with myself knowing that it could happen again and risking others. I drive with both of my kids in the car frequently and I couldn't live with myself if I hurt them because I became incapacitated. Also, putting the general public at risk would bother me, especially in this guy's shoes where he drove into a Starbucks and injured people.
That being said, I don't think you are getting my point, not ALL medical emergencies would warrant getting your license temporarily suspended. Only ones that would put you at a greater risk for becoming unconscious again and losing control of your vehicle while driving
No you probably wouldn't. You could have a "medical emergency" tomorrow. Be that a heart attack, stroke, seizure, etc. After some time, you will need to get back to work, right? You're going to rely on family/spouse/public transportation to live your life?
A "medical emergency" doesn't just happen to people over 65 who are retired and have no life...
My job doesn't require me to be in the office. I go into the office a few days a week, but it's not required. I can work remote 100% if I wanted.
Like I said, I'd also buy a vehicle with autonomy. My wife's MDX for example can brake to avoid objects, has lane keeping assist, etc. My cars have none of that.
What's your point Mr. Lawyer?
Think you missed what we were talking about 20 posts ago with all your technical bullshit.
Don't really care what the law is, I am saying I don't agree that people should lose their privileges for these medical emergencies.
But, hey, you know what the state will do better than I do, so, yeah.
At least someone with common sense.
I had two mild heart attacks when I was 15 and 16 years of age. I did not lose my license, albeit, I was not involved in a crash.
What's hilarious with the state is people that drink and drive get into accidents, and are able to get their licenses back or sometimes don't even lose them on the first offense. However, god forbid you nearly fucking die while driving because of an attack or stroke or something severe, and BAM, no license.
Funny how that works, huh?
Not everyone has that option (to be able to work from home), though.
I'm not against a temporary suspension, then get proper clearances/doctors to sign off, etc, before a suspension is lifted.
I had to take the keys away from my Grandmother a few years back when she wrecked one of our cars on her way home from a church event. She evidently had a seizure (one of the WeGo paramedics told me), but thankfully the person that she hit, was actually drunk and had swiped several cars in the school parking lot picking up her children (just up the road from where the collision was), and crossed the center line (and was driving illegally). So...
But it took her a few years before I felt, along with her doctor, that she was safe to drive again...
I'm not against a temporary suspension, then get proper clearances/doctors to sign off, etc, before a suspension is lifted.
I had to take the keys away from my Grandmother a few years back when she wrecked one of our cars on her way home from a church event. She evidently had a seizure (one of the WeGo paramedics told me), but thankfully the person that she hit, was actually drunk and had swiped several cars in the school parking lot picking up her children (just up the road from where the collision was), and crossed the center line (and was driving illegally). So...
But it took her a few years before I felt, along with her doctor, that she was safe to drive again...
K
Sorry to bring facts, laws, and citations to this. Continue with emotion trumping reason.
K
Sorry to bring facts, laws, and citations to this. Continue with emotion trumping reason.
No emotion here, just an opinion.
Plenty of reason, I don't need to swing my lawyer dick around thinking I know better than everyone when it comes to the law and try to negate people's opinions.
Thanks for the convo Judge Dredd.
KI don't know where I said I knew better? All I did was back up my statement that the state can and will take your license away temporarily if you have a medical condition that increases your risk to lose control or lose consciousness while driving.
You seem very passionate about this, you should lobby the state to have them overturn that section.
Temporarily is fine.
Clearly your blinders are on as I said they should lose their license permanently, as Mr. Bewsted guy said.
Re-read again sir.
Don't disagree with temporary and getting cleared if you have a condition that increases the risk of causing an accident. I 100% disagree that anyone with a condition that is something like a heart attack, stroke or something similar losing their privilege completely and permanently.
Clearly your blinders are on as I said they should lose their license permanently, as Mr. Bewsted guy said.
Re-read again sir.
Don't disagree with temporary and getting cleared if you have a condition that increases the risk of causing an accident. I 100% disagree that anyone with a condition that is something like a heart attack, stroke or something similar losing their privilege completely and permanently.
Hi All -
Clearly, the fucker did an aerial into a Starbucks - the bomb that was him DID go off!
If the Pre-Cogs could have seen this coming they never would have let him get in the truck yesterday. But it happened. Thank God no one died, fucking miracle.
That said, there IS a track record now. And strokes are like earthquakes - there always seems to be a few after-shocks.
NO. He should NOT be allowed to drive again until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he won't do another spinning 360 into a fucking inhabited building. Sorry for his misfortune, but he is a proven risk and the burden is on him to be proven NOT a risk and I for one am not ready to share the road with the likes of this poor unfortunate soul yet.
How is that stance a problem?
Clearly, the fucker did an aerial into a Starbucks - the bomb that was him DID go off!
If the Pre-Cogs could have seen this coming they never would have let him get in the truck yesterday. But it happened. Thank God no one died, fucking miracle.
That said, there IS a track record now. And strokes are like earthquakes - there always seems to be a few after-shocks.
NO. He should NOT be allowed to drive again until proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he won't do another spinning 360 into a fucking inhabited building. Sorry for his misfortune, but he is a proven risk and the burden is on him to be proven NOT a risk and I for one am not ready to share the road with the likes of this poor unfortunate soul yet.
How is that stance a problem?
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