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Here are two videos I found when I searched real quick. The first one you can see what it ends up like in the article. Where the whites are easily separated from the yolk. Cracks the egg at 3:40.





This one shows the eggs cook at higher temps if someone wanted to have the whole egg. Ala steak & eggs?




i mean you're a healthy adult male, you could likely just eat a raw egg or six and not have any ill-reaction too. :rofl:
 

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right, i know how it would turn out at that low of a temp- while wife was pregnant i tried doing hollandaise three seperate ways to pastuerize it and make sure it was "safe"- one i sous vide pasteurized the hollandaise after it was made, another i sous vide pastuerized the entire egg, and finally i tried pasturizing just the yolks and then making it that way, if i remember right that way turned out best.

as for hollandaise- try it out sometime, serious eats has a ridiculously simple recipe for it and when you add it to shit it makes everything better. cuz butter. and protein. and acid. what's not to like.


Was it hard to keep the yolk together when just pasteurizing it? Did you bag them or right into the water?

The way I am doing it keeps the yolk whole and easily separated from the whites. I'll try making hollandaise. I've has it in restaurants but never made it myself. Looks simple enough.
 

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Was it hard to keep the yolk together when just pasteurizing it? Did you bag them or right into the water?

The way I am doing it keeps the yolk whole and easily separated from the whites. I'll try making hollandaise. I've has it in restaurants but never made it myself. Looks simple enough.


I just bagged a few yolks together they stayed together just fine... Your way for the seperation seems to be possibly easier but more work.

I've done the hollandaise a lot of times that way. Immersion blender is key so is getting the butter hot af but not burnt.
 

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Myth #1: "You should let a thick steak rest at room temperature before you cook it."
The Theory:
You want your meat to cook evenly from edge to center. Therefore, the closer it is to its final eating temperature, the more evenly it will cook. Letting it sit on the counter for 20 to 30 minutes will bring the steak up to room temperature—a good 20 to 25°F closer to your final serving temperature. In addition, the warmer meat will brown better because you don't need to waste energy from the pan to take the chill off of its surface.

The Reality: Let's break this down one issue at a time. First, the internal temperature. While it's true that slowly bringing a steak up to its final serving temperature will promote more even cooking, the reality is that letting it rest at room temperature accomplishes almost nothing.

To test this, I pulled a single 15-ounce New York strip steak out of the refrigerator, cut it in half, placed half back in the fridge, and the other half on a ceramic plate on the counter. The steak started at 38°F and the ambient air in my kitchen was at 70°F. I then took temperature readings of its core every ten minutes.

After the first 20 minutes—the time that many chefs and books will recommend you let a steak rest at room temperature—the center of the steak had risen to a whopping 39.8°F. Not even a full two degrees. So I let it go longer. 30 minutes. 50 minutes. 1 hour and 20 minutes. After 1 hour and 50 minutes, the steak was up to 49.6°F in the center. Still colder than the cold water comes out of my tap in the summer, and only about 13% closer to its target temperature of a medium-rare 130°F than the steak in the fridge.

You can increase the rate at which it warms by placing it on a highly conductive metal, like aluminum,* but even so, it'd take you at least an hour or so to get up to room temperature—an hour that would be better spent by, say, actively warming your steak sous-vide style in a beer cooler.

*protip: thaw frozen meat in an aluminum skillet to cut your thaw time in half!

After two hours, I decided I'd reached the limit of what is practical, and had gone far beyond what any book or chef recommends, so I cooked the two steaks side by side. For the sake of this test, I cooked them directly over hot coals until seared, then shifted them over to the cool side to finish.* Not only did they come up to their final temperature at nearly the same time (I was aiming for 130°F), but they also showed the same relative evenness of cooking, and they both seared at the same rate.

*Normally I'd start them on the cool side and finish them on the hot like in this recipe for grilled ribeye steaks, but that method would have obscured the results of this test.

The cooking rate makes sense—after all, the room temperature-rested steak was barely any warmer on the inside than the fridged-steak, but what about the searing? The outer layer of the rested steak must be warm enough to make a difference, right?


Here's the issue: Steak can't brown until most of the moisture has evaporated from the layers of meat closest to the surface, and it takes a hell of a lot of energy to evaporate moisture. To put it in perspective. It takes five times more energy to convert a single gram of water into steam than it does to raise the temperature of that water all the way from ice cold to boiling hot. So when searing a steak, the vast majority of energy that goes into it is used to evaporate moisture from its surface layers. Next to that energy requirement, a 20, 30, or even 40 degree difference in the temperature of the surface of the meat is a piddling affair.

The Takeaway: Don't bother letting your steaks rest at room temperature. Rather, dry them very thoroughly on paper towels before searing. Or better yet, salt them and let them rest uncovered on a rack in the fridge for a night or two, so that their surface moisture can evaporate. You'll get much more efficient browning that way.






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Cliffs please, dont feel like reading all that. If it says dont do it, NFG. Ive done it for a few years and will continue to do it
In my fucked up head, it works lol
 

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I made eggs benedict with a hollandaise sauce for breakfast today. One tip I picked up is to use prosciutto rather than Canadian bacon. Better flavor. My son's GF was impressed with it. Another tip is to crack the egg into a small metal strainer before sliding it into slow boiling water that is mixed with a tablespoon of vinegar. The liquidy part of the egg runs through the strainer and that's the stuff that gives the wisps of egg white in the water. Straining the egg and then dumping it in gives you perfect yolk/white globes.

I make a killer béarnaise sauce. If you guys haven't tried steak with béarnaise, do so ASAP. It really adds depth and flavor to the steak. It's a fair amount of work so it's for special occasions but it's a great sauce.

For anyone who read my previous post, my son's pork shoulder was a big success. I had some for dinner before he carted it off to his friends' home. Super tender and great flavor from the Chris Lilly injection and the Lambert's Sweet Rub O' Mine rub. He used the last of my rub so I need to get up to Ace and get more.
 
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I said fuck you cold. and went for it. weber charcoal summit is so fucking awesome. used the propane ignition and bullshit two year old kingsford charcoal had it RIPPING at 650+ in -5* weather. it was awesome.

jewel prime ribeye and filet with bearnaise sauce. serious eats (As always) makes it so easy it turned out so awesome.




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