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https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/09/cbs-star-trek-picard-story-details/

Ever since CBS confirmed that it was making an All Access Star Trek series based on Jean-Luc Picard, there's been one main question: namely, what's the story? You now have an inkling of what it will entail. Show creator Alex Kurtzman has revealed that the streaming show will tie into events mentioned in JJ Abrams' 2009 Star Trek movie, and that this has a dramatic effect on the iconic character (fair warning: there are spoilers for that movie below).

In that first Abrams flick, Spock mentions that he failed to save the Romulan homeworld, Romulus, from a supernova that followed several years after Star Trek: Nemesis. That event and the subsequent end to the Romulan Empire "radically altered" Picard's life, Kurtzman said. Picard had spent his career simultaneously defending against and seeking peace with the Romulans, and their collapse was bound to change everything. Patrick Stewart said he wasn't going to reprise the role unless it could challenge expectations for Star Trek, and this clearly fits the bill.
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There are still many unknowns, including the release date. There's little doubt that a lot is riding on the Picard series, though. CBS has multiple Star Trek shows in the All Access pipeline, but this is likely to be the most important given its story and star power.
 

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New Star Trek = The Orville.

CBS has done a crappy job with Discovery so why expect them to do any better with Picard?
st: ng was phenomenal.

made it through only a few episodes of the orville. disliking seth aside, i just didn't find it all that good.
 

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st: ng was phenomenal.

made it through only a few episodes of the orville. disliking seth aside, i just didn't find it all that good.
TNG is the Star Trek series that is most like The Orville. More fun to go along with the SciFi.

Discovery is bogged down in its own pretensions.

No idea what the Picard show will be like. Probably a lot of wine and cheese.
 

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aside from a general structure paying homage to star trek i didn't really think it was all that much like any of them, as they tended to be more serious and philosophical whereas the orville seems more like cheesy space comedy. i haven't watched any discovery.
 

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You haven't watched enough Orville either if you think it's cheesy space comedy.

Go watch The Trouble with Tribbles some time. That's a pretty cheesy episode of TOS and it's one of the most loved.
 

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You haven't watched enough Orville either if you think it's cheesy space comedy.

Go watch The Trouble with Tribbles some time. That's a pretty cheesy episode of TOS and it's one of the most loved.
oh i agree, although that was extra cheese and the original. while next gen is generally pretty serious and has moral dilemmas and good philosophical explorations whereas the orville seems to be too much of a comedy. so even if it does bring something up it seems like it will have a bunch of jokes in it along the way and take something that could be deep and make it shallow. idna maybe i should give it another chance, i bailed pretty early, maybe ep3
 

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Stoked for a new Picard series. I couldn't get into Discovery. Hopefully this is good.
 

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oh i agree, although that was extra cheese and the original. while next gen is generally pretty serious and has moral dilemmas and good philosophical explorations whereas the orville seems to be too much of a comedy. so even if it does bring something up it seems like it will have a bunch of jokes in it along the way and take something that could be deep and make it shallow. idna maybe i should give it another chance, i bailed pretty early, maybe ep3
Check out episodes in TNG like The Naked Now and any of the Troi (Diana's mother) episodes. TNG had plenty of fun in the series. Picard was actually skipping in The Naked Now.

Orville does the same. Some comedy episodes and some that have comedy but are more serious. The show has evolved a bit from the first few and will continue to do so. Plus, I like the comedy. It's more real than a tight ass military style program.
When Gordon loses his leg, it's hilarious and believable in the context.
 

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Check out episodes in TNG like The Naked Now and any of the Troi (Diana's mother) episodes. TNG had plenty of fun in the series. Picard was actually skipping in The Naked Now.

Orville does the same. Some comedy episodes and some that have comedy but are more serious. The show has evolved a bit from the first few and will continue to do so. Plus, I like the comedy. It's more real than a tight ass military style program.
When Gordon loses his leg, it's hilarious and believable in the context.
sure but having some fun or lolz don't turn you into a comedy. i'm watching ep3 now as i bailed by ep2 before. i don't know how you could object to me calling this a comedy or cheesy as it is widely recognized and self described as a comedy, is it not? maybe cheesy is the wrong word but there are certainly plenty of jokes and goofs and gaffes in it, one liners and such at that. it is certainly paying homage to star trek but i don't find it too similar at all. i think a comparison to the next gen is a few miles off. it is far more on target with a galaxy quest.
 

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While I agree there is way more humor in Orville than TNG, there are some episodes that despite some of the one liners fit right into TNG.

I love episodes 3, 4, and 7. And others as well.
 

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While I agree there is way more humor in Orville than TNG, there are some episodes that despite some of the one liners fit right into TNG.

I love episodes 3, 4, and 7. And others as well.
i'll struggle through it and see what i think by end of 7
 

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so i just started ep7, looks like it might be interesting but let's be real here - next gen or black mirror this is not. ya got seth making tramp stamp jokes as an alien as a zing one liner? but who even really chuckled at that? i can leave the show on as background given that i work from home and throw stuff on as background noise all the time.
 

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I was reading about the current Orville episode and came across this:

The show's creator, Seth MacFarlane, is a self-confessed Trekkie and has even appeared in two episodes of "Star Trek: Enterprise" ("The Forgotten" season 3, episode 20 and "Affliction" season 4, episode 15). Like so many of us, MacFarlane grew up watching "Star Trek: The Next Generation" as it aired in the late 80s and early 90s and that has certainly influenced how the "The Orville" looks.


"It's a love letter to 'The Next Generation,'" said Mark Jackson, who portrays Isaac on the show. "I think it's a really beautiful thing. Seth has captured the best elements of that show and transported them into 'The Orville' and made it a different show."
https://www.space.com/42861-the-orville-season-2-cast-interviews.html
 

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"I think it's a really beautiful thing. Seth has captured the best elements of that show and transported them into 'The Orville' and made it a different show."

i'm stunned at that, i have totally bailed at this point. tng was a fantastic show and i watched every episode. i went to UIUC and literally did not know another engineering student who had not seen every episode either. it was great sci-fi. the orville formula just doesn't work for me though. the zingy one liners are the worst of it.

 

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Could be you have matured so that type of show doesn't appeal to you the same way. I loved TNG when it came out but I laugh at it when I watch episodes now.
 

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Could be you have matured so that type of show doesn't appeal to you the same way. I loved TNG when it came out but I laugh at it when I watch episodes now.
they are still so far though, i mean tramp stamp jokes? c'mon now. i do probably romanticize how good tng was because that's just kind of what you do with memories of most things, ie. of course the videogames i grew up playing with had better stories and were more fun than most now, etc. i don't watch old shows in part because i think that would probably ruin some of them for me. ie. i enjoyed watching macgyver, my brother said it is pretty painful to try and give those same episodes a watch today. so i'll just leave that memory intact for now!
 

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I forgot that this was strictly All-Access. Well, Kodi it is then.
 

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I know its a Teaser, and Teasers really don't ever show anything of note. But if you mute the audio it looks like a commercial for a Vineyard.
 

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