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ok. I have been doing a LOT of research on intercoolers. I was leaning toward the New Intense one. I was flipping through ZZp's site again. I didnt see it before. The SS IC. They say it works, and so do many other people. for 550 you cant beat that. comes with everything to put it on. Does anyone have this on here? did it help in the quarter at all?? What do you think of it? how hard is it top put in? how long did it take?
 

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remember its like a half intercooler... used to clear up KR that you already got, or dropping .1 or .2 in pulley size... thus the FULL size is better.
 

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If your gonna get the intense one, might as well get the Wbody store one. The fittings make it easier to install from what I hear, and you would be supporting a sponsor. :D

Plus its cheaper.
 

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The SS IC is a nice Intercooler, it does what it is supposed to do! If you are looking at getting something that is not overkill or huge than this is the route to go. It is also half the cost of all the full size ones out there, so if the financial part plays a factor than this works best.

I have to disagree with this statement:
dropping .1 or .2 in pulley size
Because I have seen a number of cars with this IC on there and they were running minor mods and went from using 3.4 pulleys all the way down to 3.0 and some 2.8 and receiveing no KR whatsoever. So dont be fooled that you cannot see power.

Overall you need to evaluate how far you plan to mod your car and find what setup is best suiting to your needs. The SS IC is a nice little intercooler and you will be happy with the results. Of course it will not compare to the full size intercooler, but neither does the cost...
 

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fawk, my IC mght be 4 sale soon.........

Maybe the whole car.....who knows...... :unsure:
 

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Originally posted by RoyalGTP@Jan 27 2005, 07:31 PM
fawk, my IC mght be 4 sale soon.........

Maybe the whole car.....who knows...... :unsure:
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Wow you got lots of mods, why would you be selling your IC and/or the whole car?
Did it brake? :eek:

If you'll be de-modding how much for your TOGs? :)
 

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Originally posted by RoyalGTP@Jan 27 2005, 07:31 PM
fawk, my IC mght be 4 sale soon.........

Maybe the whole car.....who knows...... :unsure:
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dibs if you do it soon. I might order the IC this week.
 

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If you are already spending $550 on an intercooler, you might just save up and get the bigger one. Or wait for a used one for a cheaper price. I just would not spend that much money to do it half-assed.
 

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fawk, my IC mght be 4 sale soon.........

Maybe the whole car.....who knows..
Shut up...you arent going to put all those mods on, never get the car to the track, and then sell them all. Dont be scerd, get your money back.
 

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ss ic = you get what you pay for. a full ic does get a little pricey. plus if you don't want to run cut up fuel lines, the prj's are almost 400 i think, or spacers from intense are 250. full ic's make lots of power, but with lots of power come other problems. it's just all what you want to do.
 

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Originally posted by zeez gtp@Jan 27 2005, 10:06 PM
ss ic = you get what you pay for. a full ic does get a little pricey. plus if you don't want to run cut up fuel lines, the prj's are almost 400 i think, or spacers from intense are 250.  full ic's make lots of power, but with lots of power come other problems.  it's just all what you want to do.
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well. I dont think I am going to set any records with my car. It is my daily driver....and it is the newest. I blew the motor in my last gp 4 times and the trany 3. I dont want to go through that again. I may go with the SS IC, and get some more mods on it and call it. I wouldnt mind running a 12.4 or below...but. I have 2 goals I am shooting for.

1. Beat my friends 99 Trans am(just has an exhaust)
2. Beat another GTP here in town.....which at the end of last year..he and I were side by side.
3.....welll beat a couple other people.

I am going to think long and hard about this tonight. I might place the order in the morning. If I get it would I be able to enlist some volunteers to help put it on. I buy the beer....and food. Kinda want to keep it hidden as well.....which can be accomplished with this kit. Other people I have talked to run this with a 2.8..and have no KR.
 

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If you sell the whole car royal, I got dibs on the GMPP Konis. :D
 

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Originally posted by GTPPWR@Jan 27 2005, 10:53 PM
well.  I dont think I am going to set any records with my car.  It is my daily driver....and it is the newest.  I blew the motor in my last gp 4 times and the trany 3.  I dont want to go through that again.  I may go with the SS IC, and get some more mods on it and call it.  I wouldnt mind running a 12.4 or below...but.  I have 2 goals I am shooting for.

1.  Beat my friends 99 Trans am(just has an exhaust)
2. Beat another GTP here in town.....which at the end of last year..he and I were side by side.
3.....welll  beat a couple other people.

I am going to think long and hard about this tonight.  I might place the order in the morning.  If I get it would I be able to enlist some volunteers to help put it on.  I buy the beer....and food.  Kinda want to keep it hidden as well.....which can be accomplished with this kit. Other people I have talked to run this with a 2.8..and have no KR.

Hey Jacob,

If you want to run a 2.8" pulley with absolutely 0kr my suggestion would be to just plain skip the SSIC and go with the Wbody or ZZP full IC's.

The SSIC's main purpose is to quench knock for people who are getting high amounts of kr with larger pullies (ie 3.2-3.4"). It was not made for lowering your pulley size, even Zooomer told me this when he was installing my ZZP IC.

First off, The SSIC core will probably not be large enough to cool the intake temps for you to run a 2.8" pulley as a daily.

Second, alot of the guys on clubgp who are running 3" pullies and lower who have SSIC's have alot of corresponding mods like cam, headers, etc. Which help quench knock also...

I can guarantee you, with the larger intercoolers you will be able to run a 2.8" daily with 0kr with minimal mods, and you will be also be able to advance your timing somewhat depending on what additional mods you have.

I run a 3" pulley, and see 0 kr with full timing on my DHP (around 15.5-16*). I will be adding more timing and will be dropping down to a 2.8" pulley for this summer, once I get tuning squared away.

It is most definitely worth it IMHO to spend the extra 400$ and get either the Wbody or the ZZP full IC. You won't regret the purchase one bit!

Take care,

Joel
 

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I run a 3.0 with 23 degrees of timing with our IC. Stock heads, Cam, rockers, manifolds, intake, blower, throttle body, catylitic converter, catback, kanuter valve... :)

Actually, I did and then my input shaft decided to get a divorce from itself. :)
 

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well I have the cam(not installed), I am just saving for the heads. I am wanting everything to also apear stock(no mods to fuel lines) I have ......I just have to think about this.

Originally posted by jk99gtp+Jan 27 2005, 11:32 PM-->
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@Jan 27 2005, 10:53 PM
well.  I dont think I am going to set any records with my car.  It is my daily driver....and it is the newest.   I blew the motor in my last gp 4 times and the trany 3.  I dont want to go through that again.  I may go with the SS IC, and get some more mods on it and call it.  I wouldnt mind running a 12.4 or below...but.  I have 2 goals I am shooting for.

1.  Beat my friends 99 Trans am(just has an exhaust)
2. Beat another GTP here in town.....which at the end of last year..he and I were side by side.
3.....welll   beat a couple other people.

I am going to think long and hard about this tonight.  I might place the order in the morning.  If I get it would I be able to enlist some volunteers to help put it on.  I buy the beer....and food.  Kinda want to keep it hidden as well.....which can be accomplished with this kit. Other people I have talked to run this with a 2.8..and have no KR.

Hey Jacob,

If you want to run a 2.8" pulley with absolutely 0kr my suggestion would be to just plain skip the SSIC and go with the Wbody or ZZP full IC's.

The SSIC's main purpose is to quench knock for people who are getting high amounts of kr with larger pullies (ie 3.2-3.4"). It was not made for lowering your pulley size, even Zooomer told me this when he was installing my ZZP IC.

First off, The SSIC core will probably not be large enough to cool the intake temps for you to run a 2.8" pulley as a daily.

Second, alot of the guys on clubgp who are running 3" pullies and lower who have SSIC's have alot of corresponding mods like cam, headers, etc. Which help quench knock also...

I can guarantee you, with the larger intercoolers you will be able to run a 2.8" daily with 0kr with minimal mods, and you will be also be able to advance your timing somewhat depending on what additional mods you have.

I run a 3" pulley, and see 0 kr with full timing on my DHP (around 15.5-16*). I will be adding more timing and will be dropping down to a 2.8" pulley for this summer, once I get tuning squared away.

It is most definitely worth it IMHO to spend the extra 400$ and get either the Wbody or the ZZP full IC. You won't regret the purchase one bit!

Take care,

Joel
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well...how much would you have to buy..on top of the big IC, just to make it work? fuel rails, what else???? not to be rude...just tryn to figure every possible option.

I am impressed with the 13.2 with those few items....and this has got me wondering how the SS would do as well.
 

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You can either cut your stock fuel rails, or buy fuel rail spacers from Intense or ZZP. Or buy PRJ or ZZP fuel logs.
 

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Originally posted by GTPPWR@Jan 28 2005, 12:56 AM
well...how much would you have to buy..on top of the big IC, just to make it work?  fuel rails, what else???? not to be rude...just tryn to figure every possible option. 

I am impressed with the 13.2 with those few items....and this has got me wondering how the SS would do as well.
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It would have been 12's but I was only commanding 14 - 15 degrees of timing that evening. D'oh! You can braze material onto your stock fuel rails and 95% of people would be none the wiser.
 
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Originally posted by GTPPWR@Jan 28 2005, 12:56 AM
well...how much would you have to buy..on top of the big IC, just to make it work?  fuel rails, what else???? not to be rude...just tryn to figure every possible option. 

I am impressed with the 13.2 with those few items....and this has got me wondering how the SS would do as well.
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look at the trap speed....he was easily in the twelves if he knew how to drive :p

j/k mike
 

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Originally posted by fastcash420+Jan 28 2005, 11:07 AM-->
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@Jan 28 2005, 12:56 AM
well...how much would you have to buy..on top of the big IC, just to make it work?  fuel rails, what else???? not to be rude...just tryn to figure every possible option. 

I am impressed with the 13.2 with those few items....and this has got me wondering how the SS would do as well.
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look at the trap speed....he was easily in the twelves if he knew how to drive :p

j/k mike
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Owwwwwwyyyy. I was only trapping 102 - 103mph that night with you guys. I was as surprised as anyone else that it pulled 13.2 under those conditions with that timing no less.
 

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I got to put on this TB....I cannot tune with this ICCU..

Hopefull then I can get rid of some KR....

I may throw a 3.1 till then. :(
 

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Originally posted by RoyalGTP@Jan 28 2005, 12:50 PM
I got to put on this TB....I cannot tune with this ICCU..

Hopefull then I can get rid of some KR....

I may throw a 3.1 till then. :(
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why can't you tune with the iccu?

i got rid of 7 degrees of knock with it down to less than 1 at shifts
 

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