Movie SprayinTomatoes Presents: Terminator 2 is overrated
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You're directly proving my point and not refuting it actually. If you think *any* of the Terminator movies are Oscar worthy, then I don't know what to tell you.
No, you've been completely missing my point the entire time. Technical Oscars DON'T MEAN SHIT about the quality of a movie.
T2 is a good movie by itself. At the time the CG was groundbreaking. The story was probably better than it should've been. But it won no awards for story, screenplay, writing, direction, acting, etc, and it wasn't nominated for any either. It was visually a great movie. Again, you've completely missed the point, that good visuals =/= good movie and # of Oscars (especially technical awards) =/= the overall quality of a movie.
That's not at all what we are even talking about. Lets recap. T2 is overrated. The Terminator is a better movie. People only like T2 cuz nostalgia (either too young for T1 or wasn't born yet.)
If you wanted to have an argument about Oscars, *the argument doesn't change*. It's still overrated based on the number of Oscars it won.
And I am going back to your back-asswards theories of how a movie gets to be overrated, see the Fury Road thread.
Your theories are based on nothing concrete.
At this point, it just seems like you just call out things as overrated, because they have overwhelming popularity (AKA hipster theory.) Prove me wrong.
Your theories are based on nothing concrete.
At this point, it just seems like you just call out things as overrated, because they have overwhelming popularity (AKA hipster theory.) Prove me wrong.
That is *LITERALLY* what overrated means. So using the Oscars as a metric is a problem for you (even though this movie still qualifies by that metric), and saying that people overly like it is a problem for you also? Looks to me like it's just you with a problem.
So what you're saying is that any movie that has a large fan base and/or is universally loved is overrated?
This is spot fucking on. T1 and Alien are scifi horror movies while their sequels are more action. Both are great movies for different reasons.
Both had great visual effects for their time that pushed the envelope. T1's stop motion metal skeleton is still awesome to see even today. It has a Star Wars OG trilogy vibe with the practical effects and was amazing at the time.
T2 was one of the first movies I remember seeing with CGI at the level it was at. I mean there are movies and TV shows today that get made with less care and lower quality visuals and its almost 30 years ago. T2 was probably made on a god damn 486 that rivals a potato in computing power but these clowns cant do good effects with the machines they have now. Its amazing.
The music was stepped up a notch for sure as well in T2, which is also why I think it is also well remembered.
Overrated, I dont think so. Best movie of all time? Probably not.
Technical Oscars cannot be overlooked IMO. That is something that opinions cannot really be bias about. Did T2 look better than TMNT 2? Hell yes. doing a quick google search can show you what movies that came out, and no other movie holds a candle to T2 when it comes to effects or visuals.
I'm lost. But you said the definition of overrated is *LITERALLY* being overwhelmingly popular...spoiler alert, it's not.
Jesus Christ. Apparently I have to spell this out like I'm talking to a 5th grader. Overrated in such that it has the "universal love" (read: cult status) that gives it the perception of being better than it actually is. This doesn't take away from it being a good movie. It is not the movie it is made out to be.
This is the 2nd thread in which all you have done is argue about the definition of overrated instead of contributing to the discussion. I'm betting it is because you don't have any actual points to whether or not it is a good movie or not. And instead of trying to make that point once, you keep hammering it, because you have zero other talking points.
This is the 2nd thread in which all you have done is argue about the definition of overrated instead of contributing to the discussion. I'm betting it is because you don't have any actual points to whether or not it is a good movie or not. And instead of trying to make that point once, you keep hammering it, because you have zero other talking points.
Somehow I missed this post. This is a pretty good point. Maybe that's my sticking point in why I like T1 better. Sci/Fi Horror > Action porn.
And this is the second thread where you literally have bad takes and have offered 0 evidence to why you believe it to be true. Other than it's apparently has a cult status, and is apparently perceived better, but can't fathom that it was good then and is good now.
I've already posted (take a gander a few posts up) that I thought the movie itself was good, the visuals were great, but the movie was what it was. And that's EXACTLY what I said about Fury Road in that thread.
You have bad takes. At least back your bad takes up with some semblance of actual thought or evidence
I'll see your point about that, I started in on saying it was overrated and it devolved from there. Still you are just arguing for arguments sake. I stated pretty clearly in Fury Road why it is overrated.
Both of these threads started out of a conversation I was in the middle of with [MENTION=5]Mook[/MENTION] so the initial posting wasn't inclusive of what it should have been.
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