🔧 BUILD So I ditched the Tahoe for a Caprice

[Blownbyyou]

I know nothing about them other than I need turbos and it would have to be white. The guys at Chicago motors said the 3.7’s are junk and always need major work when they get them. The 3,5 just basic maintenance.

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

I own a sho (and albeit an older one) and 3.5's can

-chew threw timing chains (mine did)
-intakes can gum up due to direct injection
-Mass air flow meters wiring can get jacked up
-Chew through batteries(gone through 3 in 4 years and my car is daily driven in a heated garage...

 

[EmersonHart13]

Caprice weather?

Your old truck was rwd... Don't play with my emotions

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

I own a sho (and albeit an older one) and 3.5's can

-chew threw timing chains (mine did)
-intakes can gum up due to direct injection
-Mass air flow meters wiring can get jacked up
-Chew through batteries(gone through 3 in 4 years and my car is daily driven in a heated garage...

He had no skin in the game, not sure why he’d lie. We’re talking the same vehicles he sees over and over again, not one example of a sho.

 

[EmersonHart13]

WHITE:


2010 Ford Expedition, Stock No: R-8695 by Chicago Motors Inc., Chicago IL

2010 Ford Expedition XLT 4WD
Body: SPORT UTILITY 4-DR

Engine: 5.4L V8 SOHC 16V FFV

Trans: 6-Speed Automatic

2009 Chevrolet Suburban, Stock No: R-8241 by Chicago Motors Inc., Chicago IL

2009 Chevrolet Suburban LS 2500 4WD
Body: SPORT UTILITY 4-DR

Engine: 6.0L V8 OHV 16V

Trans: 6-Speed Automatic

Drive: 4WD

Ext. Color: White

Int. Color: Black

Mileage: 95,498

Stock No: R-8241

VIN: 1GNGK46K89R226831

2008 Chevrolet Suburban, Stock No: R-8163 by Chicago Motors Inc., Chicago IL

2008 Chevrolet Suburban LS 2500 4WD
Body: SPORT UTILITY 4-DR

Engine: 6.0L V8 OHV 16V

Trans: 6-Speed Automatic

Drive: 4WD

Ext. Color: White

Int. Color: Black

Mileage: 72,534

Stock No: R-8163

VIN: 3GNGK26K38G312972

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Your old truck was rwd... Don't play with my emotions

That’s true and I remember being the only vehicle going up vail pass after they reopened it in a snow storm. Was fine. Didn’t even use my chains.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

WHITE:


2010 Ford Expedition, Stock No: R-8695 by Chicago Motors Inc., Chicago IL

2010 Ford Expedition XLT 4WD
Body: SPORT UTILITY 4-DR

Engine: 5.4L V8 SOHC 16V FFV

Trans: 6-Speed Automatic

2009 Chevrolet Suburban, Stock No: R-8241 by Chicago Motors Inc., Chicago IL

2009 Chevrolet Suburban LS 2500 4WD
Body: SPORT UTILITY 4-DR

Engine: 6.0L V8 OHV 16V

Trans: 6-Speed Automatic

Drive: 4WD

Ext. Color: White

Int. Color: Black

Mileage: 95,498

Stock No: R-8241

VIN: 1GNGK46K89R226831

2008 Chevrolet Suburban, Stock No: R-8163 by Chicago Motors Inc., Chicago IL

2008 Chevrolet Suburban LS 2500 4WD
Body: SPORT UTILITY 4-DR

Engine: 6.0L V8 OHV 16V

Trans: 6-Speed Automatic

Drive: 4WD

Ext. Color: White

Int. Color: Black

Mileage: 72,534

Stock No: R-8163

VIN: 3GNGK26K38G312972

Some days I think I want a burb, others I don’t. Same length as my Sierra was and it was tight parking that thing at times. Plus I don’t miss the mpg drain. Expedition is far too big for her and I’m not driving a Ford. No ecoboost no care.

 

[Bub]

Suburban. Yes

 

[CMNTMXR57]

Caprice weather?

I drive the G8 in this slop...

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

I drive the G8 in this slop...

You have zero mountains or hills.

Edit: also they throw down some rocks every once in a while on the road. We don’t get the constant salt like you do so I can get slippery quick. I’d probably end up with studs.

 

[Kensington]

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

I own a sho (and albeit an older one) and 3.5's can

-chew threw timing chains (mine did)
-intakes can gum up due to direct injection
-Mass air flow meters wiring can get jacked up
-Chew through batteries(gone through 3 in 4 years and my car is daily driven in a heated garage...

-I've heard of the timing issues, but doesn't seem extremely prevalent
-The intakes are a huge issue, but I've done nothing except run 93 and Mobil 1 oil, and occasionally run the car HARD, and the build up has actually decreased significantly.
-Not sure what you're talking about with the MAF, as the 3.5's have no MAF, they have a MAP, and I've never heard of any issues with it.
-Also the battery issues are a new one

Issues that I've heard and run across
-PTU (transfer case) blowing up, but primarily pre-2014. A way to stave off failures is to make sure the tires are always within 1/32nd of each other.
-Premature turbo failures (but this has been pretty overblown, a few people definitely had premature failures, but more often than not both turbo's failed at once, or within a month or so, which leads me to believe something environmental or maintenance related. The turbo's are actually different in that one spins clockwise and the other counter clockwise which SHOULD rule out manufacturing.) Seems most fail around the 120K mark. I'm working on 130K on my stock units, and haven't seen any issues or redflags.
-Spark plugs, if they haven't been changed, it's the first thing that should be done. They came from the factory with terribly gapped plugs...when I pulled mine, the gaps were anywhere between .29 and .4
-Brakes - shouldn't be an issue with a PI or SHO, but poor brake feel and bad ABS/hydraulic units seem to be sporadic, but not uncommon.
-CO contamination - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-e...new-recall-demand-carbon-monoxide-complaints/

 

[Kensington]

My vote is for a 2nd 'Hoe. Only reason I don't have a PPV now is that I drive too much, and want something with better gas mileage than the Flex.

I'd also be worried about parts availability on the Caprice, as already has been stated.

 

[SaturdaysGS]

-I've heard of the timing issues, but doesn't seem extremely prevalent

-The intakes are a huge issue, but I've done nothing except run 93 and Mobil 1 oil, and occasionally run the car HARD, and the build up has actually decreased significantly.

-Not sure what you're talking about with the MAF, as the 3.5's have no MAF, they have a MAP, and I've never heard of any issues with it.

-Also the battery issues are a new one



Issues that I've heard and run across

-PTU (transfer case) blowing up, but primarily pre-2014. A way to stave off failures is to make sure the tires are always within 1/32nd of each other.

-Premature turbo failures (but this has been pretty overblown, a few people definitely had premature failures, but more often than not both turbo's failed at once, or within a month or so, which leads me to believe something environmental or maintenance related. The turbo's are actually different in that one spins clockwise and the other counter clockwise which SHOULD rule out manufacturing.) Seems most fail around the 120K mark. I'm working on 130K on my stock units, and haven't seen any issues or redflags.

-Spark plugs, if they haven't been changed, it's the first thing that should be done. They came from the factory with terribly gapped plugs...when I pulled mine, the gaps were anywhere between .29 and .4

-Brakes - shouldn't be an issue with a PI or SHO, but poor brake feel and bad ABS/hydraulic units seem to be sporadic, but not uncommon.

-CO contamination - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ford-e...new-recall-demand-carbon-monoxide-complaints/

Only other BIG issue I’d be concerned with at 100k+ is the water pump, since it’s driven by the timing chains. Kinda turned me off from them if I was to buy a used higher mileage one.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

The explorer should of never been thrown into the mix. Rare to find a 3.5 ecoboost for a good price and any civilian units look lame.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

So this week I’ll finally fix the seat motor (gear is stripped on one of the up/down motors) so the wife can drive it more comfortably and see if she indeed wants a hoe or not.

 

[SaturdaysGS]

Did you do long tubes on it?

 

[Yaj Yak]

Caprice weather?

saturday morning we got an ok amount of snow here

some bro was trying to push his caprice up the slightest incline ever while his girl hammered the skinny pedal.

i was mindfucked. i mean he had to basically have slicks on the back with no weight ever.

my bmw would have made it just fine on it's all seasons.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

Did you do long tubes on it?

I finally ceramic coated them and they’re hanging on my garage wall with my Buick headers

Just going to do it at the same time as the cam swap this spring and the kid is in daycare.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

saturday morning we got an ok amount of snow here

some bro was trying to push his caprice up the slightest incline ever while his girl hammered the skinny pedal.

i was mindfucked. i mean he had to basically have slicks on the back with no weight ever.

my bmw would have made it just fine on it's all seasons.

Yea I’ll have snow tires, I may even do studded snows since shit is always so icy here. Snow is never an actual problem, it’s the thaw freeze or snowing right at freezing point and then icing over that’s sketchy.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Yea I’ll have snow tires, I may even do studded snows since shit is always so icy here. Snow is never an actual problem, it’s the thaw freeze or snowing right at freezing point and then icing over that’s sketchy.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

I mean my Silverado was fine with new crappy AT tires and 4 tubes of sand. We even got a huge snowfall when I had that, was at the rocker panel.

 

[EmersonHart13]

OMG

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

[MENTION=148]HILROD[/MENTION] [MENTION=945]daturbosix[/MENTION] [MENTION=70]Smokinhot[/MENTION]

Do you think this is too aggressive for an otherwise stock car (with headers)? It’s an l77 6.0 engine and e85 compatible

https://www.trickflow.com/parts/tfs-30602003

Basic Operating RPM Range:2,500-6,500
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift: 228
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift: 230
Duration at 050 inch Lift: 228 int./230 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration: 283
Advertised Exhaust Duration: 286
Advertised Duration: 283 int./286 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.585 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.585 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio: 0.585 int./0.585 exh.
Lobe Separation (degrees): 112

Fair idle, good midrange/strong top-end power, 2,500-6,500 rpm powerband, computer modification recommended. Compression: 10.5:1 minimum. With 3-bolt cam gear mounting and rear integral LS1/LS6 camshaft sensor pick-up ring.

 

[daturbosix]

that, my friend is the sloppy stage 2 cam. real good for boost.

made by elgin industries.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EZ7DTZ2/?tag=tcg21-20

i have one i put in my 5.3 that was going to be swapped into blue balls. but it sold. so now i have that entire swap sitting...

it should be fine. but i would get a bit looser of a converter for it to be *better* than leaving the stock one. you might notice some creep or sluggishness leaving from a stop.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

that, my friend is the sloppy stage 2 cam. real good for boost.

made by elgin industries.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EZ7DTZ2/?tag=tcg21-20

i have one i put in my 5.3 that was going to be swapped into blue balls. but it sold. so now i have that entire swap sitting...

it should be fine. but i would get a bit looser of a converter for it to be *better* than leaving the stock one. you might notice some creep or sluggishness leaving from a stop.

I found this article last night and went but don’t think I want to do a converter any time soon. Trying not to go full retard so I can actually finish my damn Buick.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/new-cam-adds-71-hp-stock-6-0l-ls-no-low-end-loss/


Any suggestions on a cam for just intake/exhaust/cam?

 

[Yaj Yak]

im listening.