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Dial-A-Boost (ms3 gold box)
fuel injector info / physical size / connector types
obd2 bench harness


210 bosch injector information

widely available for purchase, they are very short ls3 height with the nippon denso connector
for a big overview of injector physical size and connectors check out the Fuel Injector info / Physical size / connector types page
you can buy these all over the internet for varying prices but i recommend buying them from my buddy VSracing.net so you can make sure you dont get knock offs






  • Item name: Bosch High Impedance Fuel Injector
  • Part Brand: BOSCH
  • BOSCH Number: 0280158821 / 0 280 158 821
  • EAN Number: 4047024439795
  • Remark: These injectors have NO SCREEN and MUST have a fine, 40 micron or finer pre-filter near the fuel rail! These Bosch injectors are NOT compatible with gas/petrol with MTBE content, such as VP Q16 and VP Import fuels or other MTBEoxygenated fuels. This is not a problem in the vast majority of race and pump gas/petrol applications.
  • Specifications:
    • Genuine, reliable, new Bosch Injectors
    • Excellent response characteristics
    • Robust Design
    • High
    • Impedance
    • Acceptable Fuels: Gas/Petrol, alcohol/methanol, E85, CNG
    • Unacceptable Fuels: Gas/Petrol containing MTBE, specifically VP Q16 and VP Import or other MTBE oxygenated fuels
  • Coil Resistance: 9.1 Ohms / Low Impedance
  • Dead Time: 0.45ms at 14 volts
  • Static Flow Rate @ 43.5 PSI ( 300kPa ) w/Gas: 2200 cc/min = 210 lb/hr
  • Static Flow Rate @ 58 PSI ( 400kPa ) w/Gas: 2550 cc/min = 240 lb/hr
  • Static Flow Rate @ 78.5 PSI ( 500kPa ) w/Gas: 2865 cc/min = 273 lb/hr
  • Static Flow Rate @ 88 PSI ( 600kPa ) w/Gas: 3155 cc/min = 300 lb/hr
  • Static Flow Rate @ 101.5PSI ( 700kPa ) w/Gas: 3350 cc/min = 320 lb/hr
  • Connector: Denso
  • Injector Length: O-Ring to O-Ring: 1.5. / 37.5 mm
  • Injector Body Diameter: 16mm
  • O-Ring: 14.5mm Viton


CBM motorsports sells nice hats to adapt these to taller rail setups, or to drop them in to stock truck rails.
here is the "small hat" setup that is just under 1 inch
third picture you can see it will take a 210, or ls3 height to ls2 or truck height, and it will take a truck height or ls2 height injector to LS1 or the tallest height




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Here is the taller Hat they sell for ls3 strait to ls1 height



 

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Dial-A-Boost (ms3 gold box)

Creating this reference page for people wanting the Dial a boost knob found in my last two projects.
on fairmont 5 and the Colorado build i installed this dial that directly controls how much boost im running on the fly.

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Its an AEM 12 position switch and a MAC boost control valve working together through the ECU (megasqurit 3 gold box built by EFI source)
AEM switch link on amazon HERE

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MAC solenoid all over ebay 4 port for sale HERE

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once you get the 5v rotary dial installed and the boost controller wired in i made this youtube video highlighting setup and configurations



more importantly what the fuck is a 4 port solenoid and how do 3 and 4 ports work...
Real St performance did such a great job on this ill just show you their video




there are limitless ways to connect 3 and 4 port solenoids to your ECU please search the internet or check out these references down below

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fuel injector info / physical size / connector types

Compiling some charts here for injector information for people to look at to help them out with all the misinformation on the internet
These are connector types

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obd2 bench harness

Sloppy Mechanics Bench Flashing harness build sheet and instructions for obd2 (blue red/green) style LS ecu's (and some more)

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Bench harness built by sloppy mechanics page member Ben Nichols

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If you are competent and just looking for what wires go where, without any filler, skip to bottom
Ingredients:
1. 12-19v power supply, 1amp min ( i have used 500ma, but i would recommend staying above an amp)
a. these are very easy to find in old hardware, chargers, external computer components like hard drive enclosures and modem power supplys etc.
b. I have tested 12-19 volts without a problem, that being said i would say closest to 12-14 will should be used since that is what the car uses.

2. GM Blue ECU/ECM/PCM (whatever you want to call it) 80 pin connector.
a. This is what interfaces with the ECU directly, you need this guy.
b. They have 7mm bolt in there, wich is kind of annoying but also nice to make sure you don’t accidentally unplug and brick anything. I was able to hammer mine out to make it easier to fire on and off ecu’s, I would say that’s a personal preference thing and if you are doing volume.
3. In cab OBD2 connector
a. I usually cut mine out of blazers and cavaliers since there are a million at the yard and they are already pinned for GM stuff basically
b. Make sure it has orange black and purple wires, that will make the rest easy
Once you have the parts (assembly)
1. Alright guys, once you have all of that, please take the power supply, strip the wires and test them with something 12v or a multi meter or something so you know that it works, and makes 12v. This may alleviate some headaches for you.
2. Youll flip the connectors wire side to you, on the blue ECU connector pin 1 is un the upper left, and 20 at the end of that row and 41-60 is the bottom row. You’re only using 4 pins, you can leave the rest in there, or de pin them all to clean it up.
3. On the obd2 port, wider side up, wires facing you, that is 1-8 at the top, and 9-16 at the bottom. You’re also only using 4 wires on this connector.
4. You want to take the power wire from your power source, and connect it to Blue 19 and 20, (upper right two pins) and OBD2 port 9 (bottom left).
5. Then you take your ground, connect it to Blue pin 1 (upper left) and pins 4 and 5, (upper middle) on the obd2 connector
6. Now you take the serial data wire, purple wire Blue connector 58 (lower right side) to obd2 port 7 (upper right side)
Now before anything else, plug it in and see if you can access the ecu with whatever you are using on the obd2 side, if you can connect/read/write, you’re set, clean it up if you care and ship it.
JUST THE FACTS
12v power to OBD2 pin 9 (orange) and Blue ECU pins 19 and 20 (pink/red)
ground to obd2 pin 4-5 and Blue ECU pins 1
now connect pin 7 (purple OBD2) to Blue ECU pin 58 (serial data line)
you're done.
note pin 60 i am using but it does not need to be used, that was when i was testing and i just left it in there.
same with pin 16 (brown on the obd2) i clipped it out of the yard like that, never unpinned it.

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