BUILD Shawns 1971 Impala Donk

[IZZy]

I got it from IZZy but in no way, shape, or form would I blame him or accuse him of selling me a POS. He never opened it up.
The guy who did the swap also did the cam, oil pump, lifters, had the heads worked etc. So yes the lifter issue is probably on him, rings might not have been noticeably bad at the time. Izzy had no idea it had the early shitty rods. I just chalk it up as its a part of the game, and disaster avoided (hopefully). Not if, but when I turn her up to 800ish to the wheels, at least I know the bottom end will support it and then some.

Yeah I didn’t even know there was earlier rods that weren’t as good, that’s what happens when you are a Ford guy lol

Glad you caught the lifter issue now though.

 

[DEEZUZ]

Holy shit they wanted you to check back in in 600 miles??.?


I have never ever seen that before

 

[Shawn1112]

Holy shit they wanted you to check back in in 600 miles??.?


I have never ever seen that before

First oil change was at 600 and I told them what was done to the motor (semi fresh build) 2nd oil change showed high chrome and fuel so they said let’s see how it looks in another 600.

 

[DEEZUZ]

Yes, that's crazy.

 

[stock-t-bird]

your doing fine ,i am firm beleiver in doing it once,doing it right...no regrets

 

[Pro Stock John]

I'd be curious if Brian thinks trash was in the oil or something else was going on. How are the lifters?

 

[Shawn1112]

I'd be curious if Brian thinks trash was in the oil or something else was going on. How are the lifters?

I’ll ask him when I stop in next week. The lifters are being replaced and he said the guy Im selling my heads/cam to needs to get new lifters as well.

 

[Pro Stock John]

What lifters were you running and what are you getting?

 

[Shawn1112]

What lifters were you running and what are you getting?

Iirc they were LS7 lifters from BTR, I’d have to double check on that.
Not sure what Brian is going to use, what would you recommend? I’ll ask him next time I’m in there

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

So many lifter and bucket failure stories out there. I’d be curious to see if they were rotating in the buckets or just shitty made ls7 style trash.

 

[Bob Kazamakis]

I was planning to swap to morel 5290’s. Read good reviews and have a tie bar.

I think IceCreamAssassin has Johnson slow leak down tie bar lifters in his monster machine.

JOHNSON LIFTER SET - LS - SLOW LEAKDOWN - LINK BAR - 2116LSR

JOHNSON LIFTER SET - LS - SLOW LEAKDOWN - LINK BAR - 2116LSR

briantooleyracing.com

 

[Pro Stock John]

For my '67 was going to originally do LS7 which I run in it now. But I think the plan now is a set of Morel drop-ins.

 

[Shawn1112]

Confirmed they were in fact BTR LS7 lifters

 

[IceCreamAssassin]

I was planning to swap to morel 5290’s. Read good reviews and have a tie bar.

I think IceCreamAssassin has Johnson slow leak down tie bar lifters in his monster machine.

JOHNSON LIFTER SET - LS - SLOW LEAKDOWN - LINK BAR - 2116LSR

JOHNSON LIFTER SET - LS - SLOW LEAKDOWN - LINK BAR - 2116LSR

briantooleyracing.com

I do have those, they were highly recommended

 

[Gav'sPurpleZ]

Well as mentioned the cam had score marks on 4 lobes caused by the lifters
See my last report, you probably understand it better than me

He didnt say, he just said something was going on with my lifters. He said the cam is still totally useable, but recommends the guy I'm selling it to get new lifters.

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I'm curious to know what they said about the IRON number on the 1st report. They have it in bold.

 

[Shawn1112]

I'm curious to know what they said about the IRON number on the 1st report. They have it in bold.

They didnt know it was a fresh build cam/heads, see below

Original report
Fuel may be related to sampling cold. In any case, 1.3% fuel isn't cautionary even if it might've had a hand in thinning the viscosity a bit below grade. Up in the spectral results, there are a few items that have our attention. Chrome is excessive to a point where it could possibly show a ring issue. Monitor oil consumption and seek inspection if operational issues are noted. Iron (steel) is high for just 600 miles too. Averages are based on a ~3,900-mile run. If silicon is from dirt, it could be contributing to wear. Check for air filtration issues and resample in 300 miles.

I let them know and they responded with this
SHAWN: Amended for sample info. Fuel may be related to sampling cold. In any case, 1.3% fuel isn't
cautionary even if it might've had a hand in thinning the viscosity a bit below grade. A few items are high in
the spectral results: chrome, iron, and silicon. They may be elevated compared to averages, but that's not
too atypical after a rebuild. Metals likely reflect wear-in and silicon is mainly from harmless sealers. We
should find good improvement in the highlighted elements at your next sample, especially if all is well on
your end. Averages are based on a ~3,900-mile run

 

[Z28Camaro]

I may have missed it but did you get any photos of the damage to the cam or lifters?

 

[Shawn1112]

I may have missed it but did you get any photos of the damage to the cam or lifters?

No, I’ll take pics of the score marks on the cam when I pick it up. I told him to shit can the lifters if he has no use for them.

 

[Z28Camaro]

Would be interesting to take a look and let us armchair quarterbacks take a guess at the failure mode.

 

[Shawn1112]

 

[greasy]

OOOOOOOOHHHH PORTY PORT?!?!?!?1

 

[greasy]

Car is going to be rowdy!

 

[Shawn1112]

Car is going to be rowdy!

Should be respectful on the streets

 

[FESTER665]

I could push 1000-1200whp, which I will not be doing

 

[Shawn1112]

I really shouldnt be that high, I'm thinking in the 750-900whp range now.
Here is my thing bro, the bottom end is being built. Why not turn it up now instead of doing all this shit later and double handling everything.
Not only would I be double handling everything, then I need to get the tune revised when I turn it up. Fuck all that, do it all now and be done with it.