🔧 BUILD RedBeard’s 2018 GTI - APR Stage 69

[Mook]

Makes ya wonder why you never hear about it ..

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

Makes ya wonder why you never hear about it ..

 

[RedBeard]

Makes ya wonder why you never hear about it ..

I really haven’t looked at anything tuning/power related for this since i bought it. Not much out there on the YouTube’s about this kit. But with Colorado doing emissions testing on rollers with sniff test this might be a good option with a stock downpipe.

 

[Mook]

I really haven’t looked at anything tuning/power related for this since i bought it. Not much out there on the YouTube’s about this kit. But with Colorado doing emissions testing on rollers with sniff test this might be a good option with a stock downpipe.

Rollers??

 

[RedBeard]

Rollers??

Yeah lol. Not just an OBD2 scan here. An o2 spacer would work for the rear o2 codes but will a 200 or 400 cell cat pass the sniff test???

CO is just a few steps behind California with emissions unfortunately.

 

[Mook]

Wtf why? Because assfucks from Cali are moving there?

 

[RedBeard]

Wtf why? Because assfucks from Cali are moving there?

Idk, been that since before I moved here. We do get pretty bad air quality/smog along the front range where 90+% of the people in the state live. If California has done a good job fighting smog copy them… so somewhat makes sense.

 

[01bluesnake]

Yeah lol. Not just an OBD2 scan here. An o2 spacer would work for the rear o2 codes but will a 200 or 400 cell cat pass the sniff test???

CO is just a few steps behind California with emissions unfortunately.

You could try an E30 tune, not sure if you can run a straight E85 tune. Passes sniff test easily.

 

[RedBeard]

You could try an E30 tune, not sure if you can run a straight E85 tune. Passes sniff test easily.

Yeah actually that’s what started me looking into stuff this week. There’s a Kum & Go opening up a couple blocks from my house that will have E. I don’t want to deal with blending/testing ever again but looks like there’s some flex fuel tune options out there. They do require an upgrade to the high pressure fuel pump though which doesn’t look hard to do and around $400 for the parts.

 

[blue-sun]

Makes ya wonder why you never hear about it ..

It’s only been out about a year and a few months. Last year spring is when I’m seeing it came out.

 

[Mook]

And?

 

[blue-sun]

And?

 

[RedBeard]

LOL, I've wasted so much time the last two days reading through this giant thread on the golfmk7 forum on it. 250 of 350 pages in...

APR DTR6054 Direct Turbocharger Replacement System

Does that standpoint really exist when buying used? Cuz to me it doesn’t. U dunno wtf the last guy did. U dunno how he treated the car. And qualifying for cpo status really isn’t hard or expensive either in 8k miles (bought new aug2020) I’ve changed my oil 5 times. Already flushed the brakes...

www.golfmk7.com

I really hate the lack of logging/monitoring you can do with APR/UM and having to go to the dealer for any updates or changes. Cobb/EQT looks like the most user-friendly system but no flex fuel support. Want to just start "stage 1" but have to commit to one or else its crazy expensive to switch.

Not sure why I'm wasting my time. I ain't got no monies to do shit anyways.

 

[Mook]

Cobb SHOULD be releasing flex soon.

 

[Mook]

IE offers a dongle, flex fuel and in home flashing / logging but their tunes for this platform are....slow.

 

[RedBeard]

IE offers a dongle, flex fuel and in home flashing / logging but their tunes for this platform are....slow.

That's what i was gathering. Seems like they make high quality parts but are meh with tuning.

 

[blue-sun]

LOL, I've wasted so much time the last two days reading through this giant thread on the golfmk7 forum on it. 250 of 350 pages in...

APR DTR6054 Direct Turbocharger Replacement System

Does that standpoint really exist when buying used? Cuz to me it doesn’t. U dunno wtf the last guy did. U dunno how he treated the car. And qualifying for cpo status really isn’t hard or expensive either in 8k miles (bought new aug2020) I’ve changed my oil 5 times. Already flushed the brakes...

www.golfmk7.com

cliff notes on pages 1-250? Worth it? Confirms Mooks's "APR IS SHIT" theories?

 

[RedBeard]

cliff notes on pages 1-250? Worth it? Confirms Mooks's "APR IS SHIT" theories?

Pages 1-300 seem to

Just don’t take the car to the drag strip or run it with a draggy and you’ll be happy. Compare it to anything else and it’s pretty shit.

Few guys having emissions readiness issues that haven’t resolved yet as far as I’ve read to page 289 which is July 2022

 

[Mook]

So don't do anything that requires you to notice how slow it is

 

[RedBeard]

But there’s also morons complaint about 1/8th mile and 0-60 times with base model open differential cars on the full boost AWD tunes that aren’t boost by gear.

No shit your street tire one wheel drive car with nearly 400ft-lbs of torque isn’t going to be fast to those metrics.

But also A3 Quattro guys with terrible 0-60 times.

 

[RedBeard]

So don't do anything that requires you to notice how slow it is

Yeah I’m still a year off from current posts so maybe some good revisions have come out. But it’s also the stock downpipe makes it spool slower giving less low end power.

That and I don’t think anyone on that forum knows how to drag race. Dudes going street tires and 38psi, heat soaking the car in the staging lanes running stock intercoolers.

Couple guys did track days with not issues. I can’t imagine the cats will hold up well to that repeatedly though.

 

[RedBeard]

Mook I’m starting to like APR…

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

Mook I’m starting to like APR…

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Welcome to the placebo effect. They’re not the only ones that do this stuff.

 

[RedBeard]

Finished reading the whole thread...

Seems most all kinks are worked out and most the emissions readiness complaints were actually issues with the cars not the APR hardware/tune. Lot of the bitching was guys comparing it to Stage 2 IS38 cars which are going to do well with high flow or no cats. But this is a great solution for states with inspection/sniff test.

Only real negative I took away from it is that the tune is super sensitive to IAT and pulls a bunch of power when it’s hot. So intercooler is required to make close to advertised numbers and even then it’s still down on hot days.

Really like the idea of shifting the power band up significantly and getting the good turbo noises from the larger than IS38 turbos so that’s why I’m looking at this and similar options.

Thankfully I don’t have money burning a hole in my pocket so that gives EQT some time to develop and release something for the GTI with Vortex and stock downpipe. Think I’m between the APR kit and the eventual EQT setup.

 

[blue-sun]

What are the supporting mods people are using with this? DP, IC and that’s it? What about fuel pumps or other stuff like that?