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On industrial drive in West Chicago, company call Mapei has a scale. Being a semi scale it will most likely do it in 20lb increments but should be close enough. I think the 3/4 Sub was 6,3xx without me in it.

The EMJ facility over by Speed Inc. used to have one too. Not sure anymore.

I was commenting on the trailer because I thought in the rental thread, someone (Shawn?) mentioned 2k. It could've also been a different trailer too, as I think he had another before that.
 

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Right in that lane where the three semis are parked is where the scale was IIRC

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If I was doing this tow, I'd be moving over to right lane when you hit some mountains.

Are you doing E ply trailer tires?
How did you go from:

"Hey help me convince myself that it's OK to tow >6k lbs with my offroad truck rated for 5k"
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"You should switch to E load rated tires on an open car trailer"

Do you have any idea what kind of overkill that would be? You'd bend an axle before 2 E tires were at even half the load limit
 

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IMO a second spare tire is cheap insurance, sounds like you have everything covered though. I have two spares in my trailer but it's also a single axle, so I couldn't limp it anywhere like you could if needed
Fwiw... I don't know if I've ever known someone able to limp in this example.

Unless you have some batshit ratchet straps with you
 

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Sean you definitely need to bring a spare
How did you go from:

"Hey help me convince myself that it's OK to tow >6k lbs with my offroad truck rated for 5k"
to
"You should switch to E load rated tires on an open car trailer"

Do you have any idea what kind of overkill that would be? You'd bend an axle before 2 E tires were at even half the load limit
I didn't say switch, I just asked if he had e ply.
 

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I would say, buy or borrow the correct fucking truck instead of doing shit like that. I remember when I had my Raptor and dudes came out with similar shit and thought it was the coolest thing ever.
 

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If the setup weighs 8k, you’re looking at like 900-1200lbs for a healthy tongue weight. It’d be really helpful to get some of that weight transferred on to the front end of the Jeep with a weight distribution hitch. I like to tow around 70-72mph, but everyone’s truck has its own sweet spot. Sounds like you have the essentials covered……extra tie downs??
 

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If the setup weighs 8k, you’re looking at like 900-1200lbs for a healthy tongue weight. It’d be really helpful to get some of that weight transferred on to the front end of the Jeep with a weight distribution hitch. I like to tow around 70-72mph, but everyone’s truck has its own sweet spot. Sounds like you have the essentials covered……extra tie downs??
I've got 2 extra smaller tie downs that would work in an emergency
 

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Fwiw... The ratchet straps in my example would be to hold the flat tire axle up off the ground. Something way easier with boat trailers than car trailers.
 

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Yajyak has good advice here and a few others. I'll touch on a few things since I do a good amount of towing.

80mph is too fast if you only have 3500 or 5000 pound axles. My car trailer tires are rated at 81mph max, and the only time I will go that fast is when it's empty.

Get a spare. Especially since you are going at night when you'll have a hard time finding a place that's open.

WD hitch will help quite a bit. It's not completely necessary, but still a really good idea for that distance.

You said you greased the wheel bearings earlier in the summer. Did you take it apart and grease, or is that using the ez-lube hubs? If it's the latter, keep in mind that usually only lubes the outside bearing. The inside may never get any grease from that. For a long trip like that, I would be taking it apart and checking both. It is not much fun replacing bearings on the side of the road, let alone trying to find parts.

Bring extra straps. Sometimes they break or fray.

Basic hand tools and a tire pressure gauge.
 

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Have you done it?
Nah, I was taking notes LOL

I dont think I have spare 2" straps. Maybe I should grab a cheap set for "just in case". I am going to order up a spare today I just need to check the bolt pattern. I also have to re-mount the spare holder since I moved it for the winch.
 

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Yajyak has good advice here and a few others. I'll touch on a few things since I do a good amount of towing.

80mph is too fast if you only have 3500 or 5000 pound axles. My car trailer tires are rated at 81mph max, and the only time I will go that fast is when it's empty.

Get a spare. Especially since you are going at night when you'll have a hard time finding a place that's open.

WD hitch will help quite a bit. It's not completely necessary, but still a really good idea for that distance.

You said you greased the wheel bearings earlier in the summer. Did you take it apart and grease, or is that using the ez-lube hubs? If it's the latter, keep in mind that usually only lubes the outside bearing. The inside may never get any grease from that. For a long trip like that, I would be taking it apart and checking both. It is not much fun replacing bearings on the side of the road, let alone trying to find parts.

Bring extra straps. Sometimes they break or fray.

Basic hand tools and a tire pressure gauge.
So this isnt about me, but I am also towing down to FL to get a car soon. Here is my check list based on this thread, because all joking aside there is some great info in here.

Even I agree 80 is too fast, and I drive fast as hell all the time. I usually set the cruise at 72 with the car on the trailer.

Ordering a spare. I should have already bought one to be honest. I would have bought one when I bought the trailer, I even asked about them, but they were closing and absolutely wanted to get the hell out of there for the day.

I do want to get a WD hitch, but almost certianly not happening for this trip. I need to do some research to make sure I can back up my driveway with whatever one I get.

I need to take mine apart and check/grease the bearings today. I have never done it, but I figured I should at least look at them before such a long drive

I am going to get some extra straps, at least some cheap ones to have "just in case".

I was going to bring a jack, jack stands, and some basic tools.
 

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Shawn1112 Shawn1112 you have one of those hitches with the built in weight gauge? Those are nice.
I have a weigh safe hitch and it’s worth every penny. We towed for the highschool band competitions and we knew the trailer weight but with unload/reloads the tongue weight was always changing. Saved me a few times from people loading the trailer poorly.
 

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You guys ever use truck tires on your trailers, my dad being super anal put Michelin truck tires on his last boats trailer it was a triple axel and had them balanced, I believe they were just good hd truck tires, is balancing not really a thing on trailer tires or am I just a hillbilly all the 15” trailer tires I’ve bought were already on rims and none of them were balanced, I’ve never towed one of my boats more than 2 hours but it didn’t seem like it was vibrating at the time from unbalance tires Yaj Yak Yaj Yak
 

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You guys ever use truck tires on your trailers, my dad being super anal put Michelin truck tires on his last boats trailer it was a triple axel and had them balanced, I believe they were just good hd truck tires, is balancing not really a thing on trailer tires or am I just a hillbilly all the 15” trailer tires I’ve bought were already on rims and none of them were balanced, I’ve never towed one of my boats more than 2 hours but it didn’t seem like it was vibrating at the time from unbalance tires Yaj Yak Yaj Yak
I have ATs on camping trailer. Kind of a different application but it works for that.
 

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