🔧 Technical Real Towing Thread- no busters
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What do you think of that pulling vs a ford 6.7?
Vs the 6.7’s I’ve owned it’s not comparable IMO, but that’s 100% down to the Aisin trans.
Compare it to a 2020+ with the 10 speed is probably more like it, but I have no experience with those as of yet.
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Nothing pulls like a diesel does, it's just what they're good at.
I put maybe 1500 miles a year on my LBZ, purely keeping it for towing duties.
There have been several times I've thought about selling it and the Audi then buying wifey a newer Tahoe or Denali but that diesel towing capability just keeps me hanging on.
Seen the promoted ad on FB for a while, I was curious about it.
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Guess I'll have to see that I think of them. Truck seems stiff in the ass but it's not as bad as some and I'm sure it has 210k on the original shocks so some things need addressed and I'll have to load it down to really see what I think of them. But I like that they pull back on the top of the axle so the pinion doesn't roll forward under hard acceleration and there may be more at play with them than just sticking a trailer on it.
My brother-in-law installed this on his F-150. I told him to get airbags, so naturally he did the opposite and bought this instead. He says he likes it, but the ass end of the truck sits up higher than stock unloaded. He said he set it up based on the instructions, so
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Definitely think there's some of that going on back there and I'm not entirely sure the blocks between the axle and springs are OEM. It doesn't really bother the truck as they did a 3 inch spacer level on the front of it so apperancewise it's fine. But I don't think they dropped the diff and I know they didn't change the upper control arms so the ball joints are on maxed out angles and screaming for mercy.My brother-in-law installed this on his F-150. I told him to get airbags, so naturally he did the opposite and bought this instead. He says he likes it, but the ass end of the truck sits up higher than stock unloaded. He said he set it up based on the instructions, so
I don't know that I dislike them, I like the idea of them, but to really be able to have an opinion I need to replace the rear shocks for sure. And it's not near as bad as a lot of trucks I've driven on our washboards, but it's not as good as I think it could be either. Good suspension is pretty important to a guy that lives down a few miles of dirt road with the surface texture of the moon.
My brother-in-law installed this on his F-150. I told him to get airbags, so naturally he did the opposite and bought this instead. He says he likes it, but the ass end of the truck sits up higher than stock unloaded. He said he set it up based on the instructions, so
i wonder if we have the same BIL
Oh I’m sure. L5P/10-speed is pretty good too. The 11-19 6.7’s are so dated now lmao.
yeah we have a 19 and it feels like a completely different vehicle than the 24
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Yeah man wd hitch setups are clutch. Especially with suvs with a relatively short wheelbase(in comparison to a 2500 Suburban or 1 ton truck). Even when you aren't sagging(your truck probably has airbags). Go weigh your truck empty at a Cat scale, then weigh it with your trailer and get your tongue weight dialed in right. Its just way more comfortable on long interstate drives.So now that I'm back home, I'll add to this.
1st off, my Wagoneer is the most comfortable car I have ever owned, and I realized this after my 2000+ mile roundtrip.
Never once was I uncomfortable in the least bit. It also towed like a fucking champ. Cruise set between 70-72mph both ways and I averaged 12.3mpg.
My Wife was leery about the trip home and even she said she was never uncomfortable and her sitting in the passenger seat could believe how smooth it was with the trailer.
If I make this trip again next year and trailer my car, I will 100% invest in a WD hitch as suggested byYaj Yak and others. The way down had some swaying but not horrible. Coming home, I moved my hitch out 1" to see if it helped any with tongue weight. It didnt and I should have pushed it back in. I cant believe how much that 1" adjustment affected swaying. That MFer was swaying bad when I left Florida yesterday. 30-40 miles in, I pulled over at a rest stop, disconnected the trailer and moved my hitch back in. It helped a ton, but I still had some "oh shit" moments coming home with swaying. Not sure why it was worse coming home, wind maybe although it didnt feel windy.
Notice I said if I do it again next year. Car haulers take these cars there and back for $1250. For what I spent in gas, I'm assuming about $700-$800 RT, paying for shit fast food (ive eaten more fast food the last few days that I do in 6 months), and MY TIME, makes me want to put it on a hauler. I just feel my time is more valuable if that makes sense. Pretty much 40hrs spent driving there and back. Wasnt a bad drive at all, but again I just feel my time is more valuable. However I dont trust those car haulers as they are known to damage shit and 1 car from Atlanta fell off the back of a 9 car hauler on the way down. I'll find the vid and post it. I have a friend who just bought a 9 car hauler, if he does the hauling next year, I'll let him do it. He is a car dude and would take care of my shit.
@IceCreamAssassin thanks for the suggestion on those chains. I bought the below kit which also has the axle straps integrated into the actual tie down.
Those and the chains made it sooooo much easier and the quality is top notch.
2" x 6' Super Pack Tie-Down Strap Kit with Integrated Axle Straps, Direct Hook Ends & Chain Extension Ends - Black | Mac's Custom Tie-Downs
2" x 6' Super Pack Tie-Down Strap Kit with Integrated Axle Straps, Direct Hook Ends & Chain Extension Ends - Blackwww.macscustomtiedowns.com
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PJx5x both link the RAS suspension kit in Sean's thread, so I thought I'd ask here.
So what do folks think of these setups?
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sktchy and
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PJx5x both link the RAS suspension kit in Sean's thread, so I thought I'd ask here.So what do folks think of these setups?
GMC Canyon 2015 - 2023
Kit includes an easy to install RAS Standard Duty Spring for each rear leaf spring. RoadActive Suspension kits are designed to strengthen the rear leaf springs for towing or hauling without negatively affecting unloaded ride quality. This kit will reduce rear bounce and squat when loaded while...
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Idk man I haven't really towed anything with mine 
however they do ride fairly decent with 15 year old 200k mile shocks and they pick the ass up so the 3 inch level on the front isn't ridiculous. I like the angle they pull at and the concept since it seems like it'd help with axle wrap and kinda act like spring loaded track bars.
They definitely don't hurt anything and a guy could probably tighten em up if need and make shit pretty solid back there
however they do ride fairly decent with 15 year old 200k mile shocks and they pick the ass up so the 3 inch level on the front isn't ridiculous. I like the angle they pull at and the concept since it seems like it'd help with axle wrap and kinda act like spring loaded track bars. They definitely don't hurt anything and a guy could probably tighten em up if need and make shit pretty solid back there
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Tows great
Jk… Seriously it’s great. I actually notice improved ride just driving around town. Especially on bumps / train tracks / turning. And here’s like 2000lb in the bed, not touching the bump stops
Jk… Seriously it’s great. I actually notice improved ride just driving around town. Especially on bumps / train tracks / turning. And here’s like 2000lb in the bed, not touching the bump stops
Thanks guys. I found a Colorado guy on FB who has been running them, he said you can adjust the firmness or something.
I'm keeping an eye out for a deal or nice used one.
I'm keeping an eye out for a deal or nice used one.
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Yes but it’s not like adjusting a shock. I wouldn’t want to do it everyday
No I meant when you set it up you can set it up for extreme or mid or something.
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Seems like a long ass eye bolt that goes through the main spring on them you could tighten down to increase tension. My only thing with a Colorado is seeing as how they bend springs with even good bags and helpers on them are these going to be able to counteract those forces better?
Definitely start with an add a leaf on that thing before you do literally anything serious with it.
Definitely start with an add a leaf on that thing before you do literally anything serious with it.
I'm not sure what you mean by bending springs, do you mean how much it squats?
The car/trailer basically leveled my truck out.
I was thinking maybe add this RAS setup instead of AAL.
The car/trailer basically leveled my truck out.
I was thinking maybe add this RAS setup instead of AAL.
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I think I prefer the ras to bags and if that's all your pulling your fine. You throw an 18 foot flat deck and a minivan behind that mf your gonna hate life tho. Just keep your tongue weight balanced I've seen Colorado springs literally flattened out.
That would be all I'd be pulling.
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