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Lord Tin Foilhat

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It is finally time to replace the old 4790K gaming setup I built 6 or so years ago.

Pre-ordered this and am expecting it to show up early March.

AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
16GB DDR4
RTX 3070
1TB SSD
very nice. 300Hz refresh rate is insane
 

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I am pretty excited. I was considering upgrading my desktop but during covid I have found myself gaming in multiple locations and lugging a computer around is just kind of a PITA.

When I am at home I will be hooking it up to one of these.

 
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Also, as far as pre-built machines go, I have always liked the way the Corsair One looks. Very compact and professional looking.

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It is finally time to replace the old 4790K gaming setup I built 6 or so years ago.

Pre-ordered this and am expecting it to show up early March.

AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
16GB DDR4
RTX 3070
1TB SSD

That's alot of hardware for $1800. Nice pickup
 

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Really had to shop around and pay attention. Nvidia wasn't making companies list the TDP on the video cards so some shady shit was going on. It seems like they have changed that policy.


So just make sure you are paying attention if you are in the laptop market as you can get screwed.
 
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Really had to shop around and pay attention. Nvidia wasn't making companies list the TDP on the video cards so some shady shit was going on. It seems like they have changed that policy.


So just make sure you are paying attention if you are in the laptop market as you can get screwed.

I been going through this for weeks. I originally had a GE75 MSI machine and wanted the GE76 with the new 3070 max p. And those are on infinite backorder. Then I tried to get the G17 and thats even worse on backorder. Looking like June for that one. So the only one I could get in a reasonable time was an alienware M17 r4. I opted for the 3080 version that has the 150w tdp that supposedly boosts up to 165w or more I've heard. It was $2950 shipped and its in production now. I was able to score a GE66 with the 3070 that I've had for two weeks. But I plan on returning it when my AW ships.

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They were selling the same "sku" with 4 different power configurations. Seems like they finally gave OEMs an actual list of power limit SKUs and reduced it to only two of them. The max-q which is 65w for **60 cards and 115w for **70/80 cards and the "max-p" which is 115w for **60 and up to 150/165w for **70/80 cards.

With the 20-series cards, the power limits were all over the fucking place. 65w, 80w, 90w, 115w, 125w, 130w, 150w, it was stupid. There were benchmarks of 115w 2060 "3rd party" laptops beating out 115w 2080 OEM laptops while the 2080 cost $800-1000 MORE. I'm glad I never bought a 20-series laptop because AMD-based laptops are finally getting the higher limit **60 and the **70/80 chips, at all, now.
 

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I started looking in January when the data was really limited and it was a real headache trying to figure out which laptops had what. As soon as they posted the specs for the G17 I ordered it. I remember telling my girlfriend that some one (Nvidia, asus, msi, ect) was going to end up in a lawsuit over this shit and sure enough a week later they changed it.

The Alienware should be a solid machine I am looking forward to hearing more about it when you get it.
 

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They were selling the same "sku" with 4 different power configurations. Seems like they finally gave OEMs an actual list of power limit SKUs and reduced it to only two of them. The max-q which is 65w for **60 cards and 115w for **70/80 cards and the "max-p" which is 115w for **60 and up to 150/165w for **70/80 cards.

With the 20-series cards, the power limits were all over the fucking place. 65w, 80w, 90w, 115w, 125w, 130w, 150w, it was stupid. There were benchmarks of 115w 2060 "3rd party" laptops beating out 115w 2080 OEM laptops while the 2080 cost $800-1000 MORE. I'm glad I never bought a 20-series laptop because AMD-based laptops are finally getting the higher limit **60 and the **70/80 chips, at all, now.

Ya I saw an article saying they had 28 different variations for the 30XX cards
 

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Yup. You had no idea what SKU you were getting and it was a total roll of the dice. Only XMG, Eluktronics, etc, and other "3rd party" manufacturers were listing the power limits while MSI, ASUS, HP, etc were all "i dont know good luck" with their own fucking product.
MIS has been straight forward. They have model lines like the stealth is only max q and the raiders are all max p.

The ones that really suck are the Razer Blade pros. I really wanted one of them. But they are super overpriced compared to the competition in terms of specs. They are all max q machines and usually have the slower ram and smaller SSDs for like 1.5x the money. I would have ordered one but they are ridiculous.

The Asus G17 at $1799 is the deal of the century IF YOU CAN GET ONE. That Ryzen CPU is whats holding it back in terms of availability. I tried to order one from CUK, Xotic PC, Amazon and newegg. B&H is only taking preorders and others are as well with ETAs well into June now. Same with the GE76 I really wanted. That one is pushed out until May unless you are near Micro Center and want the $2899 one with the 3080. Those are in stock at both chicago and Westmost MC.

I thought about asking someone here to buy one for me from MC and ship it down to me, but with that price, tax and shipping to FL, it would be more than the Alienware I already ordered and my AW machine should be much higher quality. I believe the AW machines are just about top of the line when it comes to gaming laptops.
 

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I was told March by HIDevolution but I am a little concerned that might be ambitious. But I did get my order in back in January so hopefully I am closer to the front of the line.

I heard from both xoticPC and newegg people that the Asus stuff was on infinite backorder because of the Ryzen CPU shortage. Then I ordered one from CUK (computer upgrade center), and they canceled my order the following week saying that Asus had 10 coming to them and I was going to get one of those, but out of the blue Asus canceled their shipment to them last minute and they were canceling all preorders. They were saying delayed until June at this point. I literally tried to get one from like 7 different places. None had any or their preorders were well into april/may. The GE76 Raider was the same but it looks like more is coming in soon. Like March 1st. And like I said microcenter has the $2899 3080 GE76 in stock now. Im so tempted to get someone local to grab one for me and throw them an extra $100...
 

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The Mortal Kombat trailer reminded me of the awesome music that was in the movie that made me watch some of the Demoscene stuff back in the 90's.

I used to collect them and be amazed at the 3D graphics and music they could make.

One of my favorites was Popsy Team's "VIP2" demo set to Fear Factory's Resurrection.



The 3Dmark demo's used to be something SPECIAL to look forward to each year. 2001's Nature scene was STUNNING back in the day.







 

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It looks like some of the shortages are easing up. I can regularly find Ryzen 7 5800x in stock now. Started playing with putting parts in my shopping cart, but not yet sure if/when I'll pull the trigger.

Thinking:
Ryzen 5 5600x
Gigabyte X570 Aorus WiFi Mini-ITX
RAM is up in the air yet, still deciding on doing a single 16GB now, to add another 16gb later. Or if 16GB will be enough for some more time and just getting 2x 8GB modules. Or just buying 32GB up front. Not really convinced yet I need more than 16GB for gaming. If I do a single 16GB module I'm giving up memory bandwidth, which Ryzens love, so I'd be losing about 10% performance to be able to upgrade later. Thing is, not sure if prices on DDR4 are really going to drop significantly in the future, so I may not be saving myself any money by not just going 32 out the gate.

For storage I'll keep my existing SSDs now, a 250GB 960 + 1TB 950 SATA for now. Going M2 will speed things up, but I'm not out of storage, and they aren't a bottleneck yet. The Mobo I'm looking at has 2x gen 4 M2 slots. So both slots will support up to 5GB/s NVMe drives in the future.
 
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It looks like some of the shortages are easing up. I can regularly find Ryzen 7 5800x in stock now. Started playing with putting parts in my shopping cart, but not yet sure if/when I'll pull the trigger.

Thinking:
Ryzen 5 5600x
Gigabyte X570 Aorus WiFi Mini-ITX
RAM is up in the air yet, still deciding on doing a single 16GB now, to add another 16gb later. Or if 16GB will be enough for some more time and just getting 2x 8GB modules. Or just buying 32GB up front. Not really convinced yet I need more than 16GB for gaming. If I do a single 16GB module I'm giving up memory bandwidth, which Ryzens love, so I'd be losing about 10% performance to be able to upgrade later. Thing is, not sure if prices on DDR4 are really going to drop significantly in the future, so I may not be saving myself any money by not just going 32 out the gate.

For storage I'll keep my existing SSDs now, a 250GB 960 + 1TB 950 SATA for now. Going M2 will speed things up, but I'm not out of storage, and they aren't a bottleneck yet. The Mobo I'm looking at has 2x gen 4 M2 slots. So both slots will support up to 5GB/s NVMe drives in the future.

Waffling on a 5600/B550 build right now from Microcenter. All in, cpu/mobo/ram I'm at like $650. 5600x, MSI B550-A Pro, 32GB(2x16) Trident Z 3600. I don't overclock except for PBO/XMP and literally just game on this so anything past a 5600x nets zero performance gain, especially from a 2070S.

My 2070S does just fine, my whole system is all SSDs so I can wait a bit on an NVME, and my PC Power and Cooling 750w PSU is still going strong.
 
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