Oops... I need a clutch

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Yep. I just got the damn thing running and now the clutch decided to give up. I guess after living most of its 150k mile life in Chicago rush hour traffic and then a turbo, it was to be slightly expected. I just hoped for a little more time.

The question is: What kit would any of you recommend? I don't want anything too grabby because this is meant to be a good A-B car, and I don't trust the T5 itself to survive too long anyway. Should I just get a cheapo stock replacement? Thanks
 

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What car?

At least you'll have a new clutch now. More power getting to the ground with a new one if the old one was slipping.
Sorry. '02 Camaro with a turbo. I don't know what kind of power it makes, but the tuner is hoping to get 350hp out of it on the dyno.
 

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I've never really had to shop for performance clutches, so I don't exactly know what I'm looking for anyway. lol
 

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I picked up an mcloed rxt 1200 that is good for 1000wtq but that is going into a 2jz/t56 magnum setup. It’s suppose to be easy to drive, doesn’t rattle, and holds a good deal of power.
 

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Man, with a t5, I don't think I would risk anything other than a stock clutch.
 

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Man, with a t5, I don't think I would risk anything other than a stock clutch.
I'm glad I wasn't the only person with this mindset. Those T5s don't really appreciate a spirited driver with a stock car let alone one making up to 1.5x stock power. The clutch might act as a good fuse for catastophic trans failure. lol I found a kit on Summit that claims to be just a hair tougher than stock. It should be here on Tuesday.

The old parts got pulled out yesterday, and they looked awful. Are you manual guys just using GM bolts when reattaching everything? Reusing stock? The bolts are the only parts I haven't bought yet. The dealer said they can get them by Tuesday though.

 

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If they're not TTY, I don't see why you can't reuse them.
 

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If they're not TTY, I don't see why you can't reuse them.
I've talked to a few people, and the consensus was that GM probably says to discard the bolts because the thread locker is one time use. I'm just going to blue loctite the original bolts and torque to spec.
 

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I'm usually all for reusing bolts. But I have broken a few of those on flexplates. The last engine I did, I used grade 8 bolts with red loctite on them and never had a problem.
 

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I had a couple buddies come over last night so we could knock this clutch job out. Everything bolted back together very smoothly, but when I felt the pedal there was a just a little bit of air that I wanted to bleed out. Then things didn't go smoothly anymore.

We started bleeding per the dealer manual's instructions, which is the same way you would bleed brakes. Then the mud started shooting out. Then nothing was coming out, then I didn't have a pedal.... One of my buddies was not familiar with the little reservoir seal that needs to be pulled out so he just poured fluid on top of that and let the system go dry. :picard:

Nothing I seemed to try from that point worked. I called another buddy who suggested that I try opening the bleeder first and then pressing the pedal down, but that seemed to just introduce more air. Do you guys have any tips or tricks for bleeding these suckers?
 

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Perhaps, if you're doing the power tour, I would just replace the master. You definitely don't want problems like that when you're in the middle of that :rofl:
 

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Perhaps, if you're doing the power tour, I would just replace the master. You definitely don't want problems like that when you're in the middle of that :rofl:
At this point, I'm probably not doing nearly as much of it as I hoped. I'm probably just going to the track in Indy and then going home. I don't trust this thing enough to not embarrass myself! There is a master at an O'Reilly's near my house though. I might as well try it.
 

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I can't say I've ever heard of this method before, but it's worth a shot.

LT1 and LS1 clutch bleeding

I tried bleeding the master and line by pumping the pedal with a screw driver in the disconnect, but it still doesn't gush fluid. This tells me that the problem must be in the master whether it's just air or bad seals. I'll report back after I try this and a couple other things.
 

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Well damn! I don't know why GM even bothered with a bleeder! That suction trick was super easy and worked really well. My pedal feels amazing.
 

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Damn, you were at Indy? I'm doing the long haul with my top swap Camaro.

Funny thing, guess what I'm fighting with right now?... The damn clutch is slipping in 4th and 5th under boost, and after a bunch of spirited driving in the hills outside of Bristol well 3rd does it too once it gets hot.
 

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Damn, you were at Indy? I'm doing the long haul with my top swap Camaro.

Funny thing, guess what I'm fighting with right now?... The damn clutch is slipping in 4th and 5th under boost, and after a bunch of spirited driving in the hills outside of Bristol well 3rd does it too once it gets hot.
Yes, I was there. I was really bummed that I didn't find the 3800 crew until right as you all were rolling out. I don't remember the guys name, but the one with the Turbo 3800 G-body GP told me a while back that you all were doing the tour. I would have liked to talk to you all, but we were a bit late getting to the venue due to my misfire problem. That kind of stopped us from getting to find/see everything. Hopefully I'll get to catch you in the future.

No kidding! Sorry to hear that. Luckily these transmissions aren't too hard to wrestle. Good luck!
 

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Sorry we missed you! I had no idea that you were actually going to go! Sounds like we just missed you too.

Might have to make another trip down at some point
 

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