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Bob Kazamakis

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UPDATE. basically haven’t gotten anywhere. Supply house said all they could do for him is submit a claim to the manufacturer about mismatch in color.
More waiting
Take discount, move on. Enjoy lower ac bills from a lighter colored roof
 

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Take discount, move on. Enjoy lower ac bills from a lighter colored roof
There is no discount. I’m saying basically the options I’m going to leave dude is not getting paid in full and being stuck with current color, fixing roof with appropriate colored shingle, or taking me to small claims court and trying to get paid.
 

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I was going to say, it always made me laugh that the one part of the house that gets beat on by sun all day, is fucking BLACK. Meanwhile everyone is tripping over their dicks trying to make more energy efficient windows, lighter color siding/trim, etc, etc.

Wouldn't you just.... get a lighter color roof?

Maybe I'm not well versed in how the fuck a roof works but I'm pretty sure 99.9% sun exposure and BLACK causes a metric fuckload of heat. Idk. I'm not a fucking thermodynamicist.
 

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I was going to say, it always made me laugh that the one part of the house that gets beat on by sun all day, is fucking BLACK. Meanwhile everyone is tripping over their dicks trying to make more energy efficient windows, lighter color siding/trim, etc, etc.

Wouldn't you just.... get a lighter color roof?

Maybe I'm not well versed in how the fuck a roof works but I'm pretty sure 99.9% sun exposure and BLACK causes a metric fuckload of heat. Idk. I'm not a fucking thermodynamicist.

I dont think it makes as big a difference if your attic space is vented and insulated properly as people make it sound either though.

If your attic space gets hot but is venting correctly and you have like R50 insulation on the ceiling of the house between the living space and the attic, I dont think youll get much transfer of that heat that will make it a huge difference between a darker roof or lighter roof.

You need really good windows because theyre whats separating living space from the outside directly. I also wouldnt care about siding color if the walls are insulated properly.
 
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I dont think it makes as big a difference if your attic space is vented and insulated properly as people make it sound either though.

If your attic space gets hot but is venting correctly and you have like R50 insulation on the ceiling of the house between the living space and the attic, I dont think youll get much transfer of that heat that will make it a huge difference between a darker roof or lighter roof.

You need really good windows because theyre whats separating living space from the outside directly. I also wouldnt care about siding color if the walls are insulated properly.
Going from single pane to double pane makes a difference, really not much value for your money after that. Window companies and installers do a great job at marketing like your gas/electricity usage is going to get sliced in half.

best bang for your buck energy savings is air sealing and attic insulation.
 

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Between roof and Covid vax shit, I am TRIGGERED today.
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There is no discount. I’m saying basically the options I’m going to leave dude is not getting paid in full and being stuck with current color, fixing roof with appropriate colored shingle, or taking me to small claims court and trying to get paid.
Imo, its 100% on him. If you picked the color of the shingle out with him, he should have caught it when the job started. Its clearly the wrong color and no matter what he says its not right. Stand your ground and dont give him another cent
 

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Going from single pane to double pane makes a difference, really not much value for your money after that. Window companies and installers do a great job at marketing like your gas/electricity usage is going to get sliced in half.

best bang for your buck energy savings is air sealing and attic insulation.

My parents for some reason got triple pane windows when they had theirs done, and they hate them because theyre so heavy.... They wish they had gone double pane.

Thats the biggest upside with doing spray foam insulation, yeah the R value is better than fiberglass or mineral wool, but the sealing off of air penetrations is the biggest thing. Since I spray foamed my bedrooms when its freezing cold outside you can literally feel the temp difference where the studs are because they allow in more cool temps that the cavitys.
 
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Roofer seems like he’s riding the fence on this. Agrees shingle doesn’t look like sample but looks kind of like one of the photos on their website. He’s waiting to hear back from his supplier about the color now.

All I know is i either got a roof I don’t like for half price or it’s going to get fixed to the color I want. Put half $$ down before work started.

Can he buy a box from a different supplier and then open one of his boxes just to check the color. Something is foresure off
 

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Can he buy a box from a different supplier and then open one of his boxes just to check the color. Something is foresure off
That’s on him, not me. When he finds out I’m not going to pay, he can figure that out.
 

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