Sports 🏎️ Official Formula 1 Thread

[Jimy Bilmo]

No RB/Porsche because they both wanted controlling stake. That’s where it fell apart.

Part of the cause of the deal with Porsche falling through is that Red Bull deemed the manufacturer to be potentially too interventionist. Therefore, the ideal partner will likely be one that invests well but keeps its distance. A return to the Tag Heuer-style branding exercise that Red Bull ran in lieu of the Renault stickers between 2016 and 2018 would be appealing on that front.

Yikes

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but for overall better racing and enjoyment, there should be things like: smaller cars, same cockpit - teams allowed to do small changes to front and rear wing design, race refueling, maybe one or two engine manufacturers, and a handful of other things. It would bring so much more enjoyment to watching races.

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Well you have another factory team coming in but at the expense of a factory team Alfa Romeo.

Alfa is a "factory" team like aston marton is a "factory" team. They don't make engines, they have a pay driver, and they're privately owned. Alfa just pays to slap their name on there, like aston

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Which is sad because they are one of the original racing teams and used their own engines.

Cars are too large and too much aero, along with too many constraints. The size inevitably comes down to safety and having to carry an entire race worth of fuel.

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

Which is sad because they are one of the original racing teams and used their own engines.

Cars are too large and too much aero, along with too many constraints. The size inevitably comes down to safety and having to carry an entire race worth of fuel.

Or don't carry an entire race worth of fuel, Indy Car doesn't, and they're fine.

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Or don't carry an entire race worth of fuel, Indy Car doesn't, and they're fine.

They won’t go back to refueling, for terms of safety.

A lot of other racing sports use refueling…. so ??‍

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

They won’t go back to refueling, for terms of safety.

A lot of other racing sports use refueling…. so ??‍

Yup, seems stupid. Literally pushing away fans to go watch more exciting races elsewhere.

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Can't have the fastest pit stops in the world (bragging rights) coming in under 2 seconds if you have to add a splash of fuel.

The cars need to embrace their past, late 80's early 90's designs

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

They won’t go back to refueling, for terms of safety.

A lot of other racing sports use refueling…. so ??‍

Yep. Regardless how they do it (lower fuel consumption, shorter races, lighter cars), making the cars smaller and more durable should 100% be part of the long term plan. I've read a little about them wanting to make cars shorter and lighter in 2026 but don't see any specifics

 

[MrMezger996]

Alfa is a "factory" team like aston marton is a "factory" team. They don't make engines, they have a pay driver, and they're privately owned. Alfa just pays to slap their name on there, like aston

Yea I see what ur saying, very true. Still losing a “factory” team name

 

[MrMezger996]

The cars are way to big now, no doubt about that. How can they keep racing at Monaco? We will never see refueling return to F1.

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

The cars are way to big now, no doubt about that. How can they keep racing at Monaco? We will never see refueling return to F1.

And that's another thing. Get rid of the parade races. So fucking dumb.

 

[MrMezger996]

Yep. Regardless how they do it (lower fuel consumption, shorter races, lighter cars), making the cars smaller and more durable should 100% be part of the long term plan. I've read a little about them wanting to make cars shorter and lighter in 2026 but don't see any specifics

Problem with the cars being more powerful and faster how can you make the cars safer and yet keep the same size? seems safety of the river and the cars being larger go hand in hand

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

Yea I see what ur saying, very true. Still losing a “factory” team name

But gaining all the investment from an actual factory team, who doesn't have to worry as much about budgets as sauber (alfa) or stroll (aston).

IMO alfa and aston should be embarrassed. You make cars for a living, if you're gonna go racing, go racing. Nobody is impressed that you're paying to put a sticker on a car and outsourcing parts/r&d to other entities/automakers.

It's funny to me that even in f1, much like in their production cars, the brit carmakers (mclaren, aston) still outsource all the difficult stuff to the germans lol

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

Problem with the cars being more powerful and faster how can you make the cars safer and yet keep the same size? seems safety of the river and the cars being larger go hand in hand

We don't care about record setting lap times year after year, give me good, hard, fun racing with action all throughout the field - like MotoGP

 

[MrMezger996]

We don't care about record setting lap times year after year, give me good, hard, fun racing with action all throughout the field - like MotoGP

Agree 100%, the best F1 racing is done from P10 to P5 and we are not seeing any records broken there. I have been watching alot of GT Cup racing on MortorsportTV and love IT

 

[MrMezger996]

But gaining all the investment from an actual factory team, who doesn't have to worry as much about budgets as sauber (alfa) or stroll (aston).

IMO alfa and aston should be embarrassed. You make cars for a living, if you're gonna go racing, go racing. Nobody is impressed that you're paying to put a sticker on a car and outsourcing parts/r&d to other entities/automakers.

It's funny to me that even in f1, much like in their production cars, the brit carmakers (mclaren, aston) still outsource all the difficult stuff to the german

But gaining all the investment from an actual factory team, who doesn't have to worry as much about budgets as sauber (alfa) or stroll (aston).

IMO alfa and aston should be embarrassed. You make cars for a living, if you're gonna go racing, go racing. Nobody is impressed that you're paying to put a sticker on a car and outsourcing parts/r&d to other entities/automakers.

It's funny to me that even in f1, much like in their production cars, the brit carmakers (mclaren, aston) still outsource all the difficult stuff to the germans lol

But I may be mistaken but Merc F1 cars are built in the UK

 

[FirstWorldProblems]

But I may be mistaken but Merc F1 cars are built in the UK

I did not know that, that's interesting

 

[Jimy Bilmo]

I did not know that, that's interesting

Why is Mercedes F1 based in the UK?

Find out why Mercedes like most other Formula 1 teams is based in the UK. Also learn how they chose Brackley as their base for operations.

www.essentiallysports.com

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Pretty much all of the teams are in the UK, all within a few miles of the Silverstone track.

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

F1 Sprint venues and dates for 2023

Grand Prix	Circuit	Date
Azerbaijan	Baku City Circuit	April 28-30
Austria	Red Bull Ring	June 30 - July 2
Belgium	Spa-Francorchamps	July 28-30
Qatar	Losail Circuit	October 06-08
United States	Circuit of The Americas	October 20-22
Sao Paulo	Interlagos	November 3-5

 

[MrMezger996]

F1 Sprint venues and dates for 2023

Grand Prix	Circuit	Date
Azerbaijan	Baku City Circuit	April 28-30
Austria	Red Bull Ring	June 30 - July 2
Belgium	Spa-Francorchamps	July 28-30
Qatar	Losail Circuit	October 06-08
United States	Circuit of The Americas	October 20-22
Sao Paulo	Interlagos	November 3-5

Austin will be even better this year!

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

Only of it rains, amirite IDAFC21 ?

 

[IDAFC21]

 

[SpeedSpeak2me]

No idea why they haven't done this sooner. Never understood why they travel 1/2 way around the world, just to turn around and go back. I can see some exceptions based on temperate zone, meaning, do you really want to race in the desert in the middle of summer?

Formula 1 to organise future calendars by region to cut down climate cost

Formula 1 says it is planning for future calendar regionalisation in an effort to cut down on emissions and make the sport more sustainable.

www.planetf1.com