Nielsen has some solid Red-Tag specials... sleds, bikes UTV's OH MY

[Bruce Jibboo]

vs car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik8Usyz3RbA

 

[Yaj Yak]

 

[Yaj Yak]

id actually wager that a new 15k turbo side by side might be the most capable new motor vehicle/powersport toy you can buy.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

A fucking roll cage, with "trophy truck" trailing arm suspension, a 900-1000cc [turbo] motor and all wheel drive.

20K BRUH? SHIT SHOULD BE $29 SPECIAL AT AUTOZONE

 

[Yaj Yak]

fuck

2017 Can-Am® Maverick™ X3 Turbo R Stock: NCU | Leaders RPM

Selling Price -$19,599.00

 

[RICH17]

A fucking roll cage, with "trophy truck" trailing arm suspension, a 900-1000cc [turbo] motor and all wheel drive.

20K BRUH? SHIT SHOULD BE $29 SPECIAL AT AUTOZONE

This is kind of my thinking. Face it, their suspension architecture isn't anything new. Yea sure the power train is nice and new and has great power for being small but its not like its revolutionary either. At least in my eyes.

But whatever. I'm not buying one anytime soon.

 

[Yaj Yak]

 

[Bruce Jibboo]

[MENTION=750]RICH17[/MENTION] not convinced, thread fail.

 

[Yaj Yak]

suspension isn't anything new, just shit borrowed from 6-figure price tagged trophy trucks.

that's all.

no big deal.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

RICH17s CRUZE XP 1.4

 

[RICH17]

Tell me what is so revolutionary about double A arm suspension and some good shocks?

 

[Yaj Yak]

name a more capable vehicle that you sit inside of that costs less?

that also does 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

This is kind of my thinking. Face it, their suspension architecture isn't anything new. Yea sure the power train is nice and new and has great power for being small but its not like its revolutionary either. At least in my eyes.

But whatever. I'm not buying one anytime soon.

Suspension that ONLY EXISTS on trophy trucks because of how expensive it is to create a system that works well to fling (usually) 6000+lb trucks through the air REPEATEDLY. Again as KJ pointed out, economies of scale. Shit's expensive because the R&D isn't spread out over a million RZRs, it's spread out between a few ten thousand, MAYBE.

 

[Yaj Yak]

shocks are same from chevy cruze to trophy trucks brah

doesn't make sense.

 

[RICH17]

name a more capable vehicle that you sit inside of that costs less?

that also does 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds.

So they're charging the amount of money because they can is what you're saying.

 

[Yaj Yak]

So they're charging the amount of money because they can is what you're saying.

sure, but also because it costs that much.

price out a 36" fox racing or king coil over.

ill wait.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Tell me what is so revolutionary about double A arm suspension and some good shocks?

Polaris RZR UTV 2.0 OE Coil Over Shocks

Walker Evans, Polaris' deal for "cheaper" shocks over Fox.

450 dollars PER SHOCK. There's four of them. $1800 in shocks alone. What about the R&D time spent tuning shock after shock after shock to find the correct preload and compression for a 1200lb roll cage with an engine?

 

[Yaj Yak]

no technology

nothing revolutionary

 

[RICH17]

I'll give you that shocks have come a long way. But yea, I bet there's a huge mark up on this as well.

 

[Yaj Yak]

same thing aas a chevy cruze shock.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Dude, you work fucking inventory.

You know part prices aren't where cost comes from. How much does your shop in back charge per hour? $120/hr? THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of R&D hours to make these machines.

 

[Yaj Yak]

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Literally trophy truck suspension.

Bro it's old tech, shit should be cheap.

 

[RICH17]

Dude, you work fucking inventory.

You know part prices aren't where cost comes from. How much does your shop in back charge per hour? $120/hr? THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of R&D hours to make these machines.

yea and you don't want to see the mark ups we have. Its crazy. And a lot of the times we don't even have the right cost pricing in the system.







These things are bad ass, don't get me wrong. but I think they're overpriced. Hell, look at some od the deals they're giving. Like that Scramble KJ post. 3-4 grand off of new price?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

And yet again, you're comparing something that is not even remotely on similar ground to a RZR. Not even on the same continent.