this is from a track day. you are not allowed to pass at almost anyone's track day except on the straights, and with someone giving you a signal, a point out the door to pass on the left, or a point up and over the car to pass on the right (which this guy does at the end of the video).Not sure whats going on here. But only thing I can gather is your buddy needs more hp, he's getting bitched on out there
here is a guy doing something similar in front of me. what you are supposed to do if someone is being a shit is to come in the pit, get space, then go back out again. but 1. you may catch the person again and 2. the shithead doesn't learn then (organizer may still yell at them if you bring it up)Not sure whats going on here. But only thing I can gather is your buddy needs more hp, he's getting bitched on out there
the porsche wouldn't be throttled - if he was actually faster, then how did he get caught on a closed loop? if a miata catches a ferrari, there is no other explanation other than the miata is faster - at least at the hands of who is driving each car.This seems like nothing I would want to be apart of. I made it a purpose to cut people off on a certain road cause I knew they were going to basically dead stop to cross a set of tracks where as I just flew over them..
No way would I let someone lower power pass me just to ride their ass and feel throttled.
i actually really enjoy going with the bmw club. they have a lot of really good instructors. and as far as track etiquette like this, it is overall at least as good if not better than running with other organizations.That kind of thing used to drive me nuts back when I raced. The best thing to do is just to pit to get some space and then get back out there. It's not worth getting too aggravated about.
The new BMW owners were sometimes the worst since they didn't expect some lowly Ford Mustang to come up behind them and stomp their M3.
i think this is at best 25% of the time that people are just 'distracted' by what is in front of them - which shouldn't be the case in intermediate or definitely advanced anyway. 1 or 2 turns ok. full laps? in advanced? 1% this person didn't notice you, 99% they are just being a douchebag.I don't think it's a "I won't let him pass because it's a mustang" thing. If it is, whoever thinks like that should get punched in the face. What happens is, the people are just focused on the track and what's in front of them. They don't use their mirrors and have no idea people are stuck behind them. Sure, pitting gets you away from them, but doesn't solve the problem. You either go up and talk to the person or tell the track people about it and let them talk to the person. You will find that people are actually extremely understanding when you talk to them or have the track talk to them.
you have enough more power to rocket towards someone so i'm sure people are getting ready to give you the point even before you're ready to take it!This has never happened to me. Most people are pointing out their window 2 corners before I get to them
you have enough more power to rocket towards someone so i'm sure people are getting ready to give you the point even before you're ready to take it!
That would be me.. lol. The number of times people refuse to let my car pass them though is annoying. I usually have to ride their bumper for a while before they get it. Most people just look back on the straights and see me disappearing and don't see me on their bumper through the turns/braking zone.This has never happened to me. Most people are pointing out their window 2 corners before I get to them
LOL yup they can def be dicks... even if you're also in a Porsche!
yah well imagine that with 2.0 lol. what run group is this? i wonder what is running through these people's heads.LOL yup they can def be dicks... even if you're also in a Porsche!
Check this one out - from a few weeks ago.... dick gives me a point at 0:20, then again at 0:30.... but stays flat WOT the entire run. My little 3.4 did pretty OK against his fancy new 3.8L.... but I ultimately stuck it to him in the braking zone
This is the "black" group with PCA - the fastest group.yah well imagine that with 2.0 lol. what run group is this? i wonder what is running through these people's heads.
You didn't read between their lines enough. I fixed the paraphrasing for you.Their response was, paraphrasing - "Buy a GT3 you asshole."
LOL! New GT3's are rocketships, I'll say that much.You didn't read between their lines enough. I fixed the paraphrasing for you.
That is pretty messed up he doesn't lift and let you take an easy pass. He must be worried about his lap times and isn't going to lift or change his line for anyone.
that's annoying. one of the things i like about bmw is that i know the club would climb on his back for this and take actions to address the behavior - or simply stop letting him attend.This is the "black" group with PCA - the fastest group.
I sent a lengthy email to leadership with this (and a few other) videos of this SAME guy. He was a rolling roadblock - literally blocking, running down the middle, etc.
Their response was, paraphrasing - Yeah, we're well aware of him. Problem is, if we bust him down a group or two, where the other drivers have even less situational awareness, he will be just as big a hazzard, if not more, there.
DE's with point rules are annoying anyways.that's annoying. one of the things i like about bmw is that i know the club would climb on his back for this and take actions to address the behavior - or simply stop letting him attend.