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LSx tuners in the area?

deviantlx

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1000rwhp is nothing these days for a street car, and theyre all on ethanol... wonder why.


lets use your logic.........


2500 hp is nothing nowadays for a racecar and they're all on methanol.....wonder why?

methanol can be had for around 2 bucks a gallon if bought by the drum which is about a 1.50 cheaper than your e85.



don't believe everything you reads on the webz.


oh yeah, stay away from the tx2k thread cause despite what you read most street cars aren't driving around with anything close to 1k+ rwhp.
 

PJx5x

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lets use your logic.........


2500 hp is nothing nowadays for a racecar and they're all on methanol.....wonder why?

methanol can be had for around 2 bucks a gallon if bought by the drum which is about a 1.50 cheaper than your e85.



don't believe everything you reads on the webz.


oh yeah, stay away from the tx2k thread cause despite what you read most street cars aren't driving around with anything close to 1k+ rwhp.

What? So izzy should be running meth?

10 years ago, 600rwhp was amazing for the street, but very realistic to attain. These days, 1k rwhp is that realistic street car number. And most of the people doing it, are on ethanol.

All you guys hating on E, do you actually know anything about it and its benefits? Or are you just scared of the myths of varying ratings between pumps?
 

deviantlx

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What? So izzy should be running meth?

10 years ago, 600rwhp was amazing for the street, but very realistic to attain. These days, 1k rwhp is that realistic street car number. And most of the people doing it, are on ethanol.

All you guys hating on E, do you actually know anything about it and its benefits? Or are you just scared of the myths of varying ratings between pumps?

I have built several cars on e85 as well as c16, and q16.


Let me ask you this....which fuel burns hotter, e85 or c16?



What does your streetcar make as far as horsepower?
 

1quick

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i honestly think for a street car e85 is a good choice cheap and works well, if you want to take it to the track on kill mode you can buy cans of e85 that the 15% gas is c16 and it has a 112 or 115 octain rating, now if i were building a track only car c16 is what i would run, i actually was getting 92-93% ethanol out of my e85 pump in town all last summer and blending it down to 70% useing 110, the e85 was very consistant but i went to the same station every time thats a mile from my house and i tested it every time kind of a pain in the ass but a tank full of that mix was the same price as runing 93, but at the same time it wasnt a 1000whp car just a 600whp v6
 

deviantlx

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E85 burns cooler. So why do you hate it, just the variance in pumps?

184hp

The answer I was looking for was neither. Octane doesn't regulate the heat of the combustion, it regulates the time.


The higher the octane, the slower the burn, the more timing you can add safely.
:drums:

Ps. I don't hate e85. I just think people like yourself believe everything they read in the magazines and Internet and are dead sold on people's word like its biblical.


And 184? I hope your kidding cause most STREETCARS come with more than that from the factory. Lol.
 

PJx5x

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The answer I was looking for was neither. Octane doesn't regulate the heat of the combustion, it regulates the time.


The higher the octane, the slower the burn, the more timing you can add safely.
:drums:

Ps. I don't hate e85. I just think people like yourself believe everything they read in the magazines and Internet and are dead sold on people's word like its biblical.


And 184? I hope your kidding cause most STREETCARS come with more than that from the factory. Lol.

You asked which fuel burns hotter, I answered that... there was nothing about octane, which doesnt really matter. Because of the cooling properties of ethanol and amount of fuel required, it acts as it has a much higher octane rating. It is very resistant to detonation, with a much higher preignition temperature.

My knowledge on ethanol comes mostly from college and federal granted research projects. And yes my car makes 184hp, probably at the flywheel.
 

nick122590

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Sounds good man! I look forward to hearing from you.



What kind of power are you looking at making? Have you thought about going with a stock PCM? My car is still on a stock PCM and I couldnt be happier with how the car performs.

I highly recommend going with 110 or C16 for fuel. It will be much more consistant. I run 93 octane on wastegate spring and 110 on my higher boost levels. I have an electronic boost controller so I can fill my car up with 110 at anytime and run my higher boost levels with just a push of a button.
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