Looking at a used 17 Ram 4wd 5.7...thoughts?
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If you like rust, Ram is the best at this!
from what I understand Ram is best interior and Ford is best at everything else? But what do I know I like the ugly GM trucks
from what I understand Ram is best interior and Ford is best at everything else? But what do I know I like the ugly GM trucks
If your only planning on keeping the truck 2-3 years, by the ram, past that it will be rusty. I just sold my ‘13 FX4, paid 35k for it in January ‘14 with 9k miles, sold it in September’19 for 35k with 64k on it. I maintained it, and got all my money back, hardly seems like a good reason to buy another?
I like the looks of the ram, I just don’t like seeing rust scabs on a late model truck though.
I like the looks of the ram, I just don’t like seeing rust scabs on a late model truck though.
My dad bought a '17 Ram Limited 5.7 4x4 in September. I've driven it a few times and like it a lot. The interior is great and it just feels solid. The 8 speed trans feels smooth and never feels like it's hunting for gears.
He traded in his 2012 Ram for the '17. The '12 didn't have any rust issues and spent its life outside. The '12 was a good truck with no reliability issues while he owned it. I drove it quite a bit whenever I needed to tow my car or haul something. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Ram truck for myself.
He traded in his 2012 Ram for the '17. The '12 didn't have any rust issues and spent its life outside. The '12 was a good truck with no reliability issues while he owned it. I drove it quite a bit whenever I needed to tow my car or haul something. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Ram truck for myself.
Take a look at the every Ram you see on road. I have yet to see many 4th gens in general (2009+) that have rust issues. GM's are much worse. It's all bullshit preconceived notions just like the trans will fall out after 50k miles. There's a reason Ram has taken over the #2 truck spot. I bought my Ram brand new in 2015 and have put 105k+ miles on it. The truck has been virtually trouble free. The biggest issues were the rear defroster went out (fixed under warranty), broken exhaust manifold bolts (also fixed under warranty, the 5 year/100,000 mile powertrain) and now the back up camera has moisture inside. Engine, trans, axles, transfer case have been flawless. Not a spec of rust or even any signs rust could be starting... Ram makes a good truck, I like it way more than the 07 F150 I had before.
IMO reliability among the big 3 trucks is basically the same for the newer models. They all have rather insignificant issues, with no manufacturer being worse than the other. Most guys that disagree with this are still living in the 2000's and don't know shit about newer trucks, or they got unlucky with a certain manufacturer and think it applies to all their products.
Buy based on appearance/interior/budget/performance/whateverisimportanttoyou and don't look back.
If it breaks one day and you think "Ah man shoulda bought a ferd" just look up the issues on the f150forum and you'll feel better. Shit happens
Buy based on appearance/interior/budget/performance/whateverisimportanttoyou and don't look back.
If it breaks one day and you think "Ah man shoulda bought a ferd" just look up the issues on the f150forum and you'll feel better. Shit happens
Looks like they all have 0 for 72. I don't want to be tied up that long in a payment since the college bills will be rolling in during that time.
A good friend of mine owns a Ford dealer in Oswego. I have him looking out, too.
I still have the bird & SS. My 02 F150 needs to go. It's my beater, but I don't want to put any more money into it.
They all rust.
they all suck and will rust eventually.
crazy how cheap these things are used- that 17 he's talking about for 22k is crazy.
edit. well. the fords likely won't
I have a 17 Ram 1500 5.7 Laramie, and I've had zero complaints, hasn't been to the dealer for anything but oil changes in the 2.5 years that I've owned it. In regard to the rust, the 3rd gens were terrible because Dodge put some insulation inside the bed walls that held moisture and salt, eventually eating a hole in the bed above the rear wheels. Early 4th gens had some rust issues, but they are also 11 years old at this point, and I haven't seen any of the later 4th gens (2012+) with any rust issues.... yet. I can tell you that the interior is awesome, and the ride is the best out of the big 3, very comfy on road trips.
The Ram trucks are pretty stout.
Rust issues are not as common as you might thing, just a common misconception from owners that hear this or that from the interwebz.
Father has a 2013 big horn and a bit under 70K miles. No issues, but, he has the infamous head tick starting to come around.
Otherwise, they are great trucks overall and look pretty good too.
Rust issues are not as common as you might thing, just a common misconception from owners that hear this or that from the interwebz.
Father has a 2013 big horn and a bit under 70K miles. No issues, but, he has the infamous head tick starting to come around.
Otherwise, they are great trucks overall and look pretty good too.
rust is such a ridiculous thing, we have some work trucks that have never seen inside of a building in their life, and rarely if ever get washed, that don't have a spec of body rust...
then you can look at the 11-16 super dutys that started rusting from inside out on the door seems and it's like wtf did you just not try this go round
then you can look at the 11-16 super dutys that started rusting from inside out on the door seems and it's like wtf did you just not try this go round
I’ve wondered the same thing. We’ve had 88-98 GM trucks that stayed crazy clean for years. Then the 99-06’s pretty much left the showroom with no rockers. (More so 99-03’s)
The biggest problems I’ve seen with Rams (and I know this doesn’t exactly aim at 1500’s) is from the heavy duty side of them. There is a shop I dealt with at my last job and there was always 3500+ dodges there getting the frames fixed and stiffened because the metal they used was so weak it had issues. And this was on super clean tow trucks / flatbeds/ etc, with no rust to be found, they just would have frame issues by the motor and back by where the rear front leaf spring mount.
I will say I really like the Rams look and interiors. I’d love me a 2500 Cummins.
I will say I really like the Rams look and interiors. I’d love me a 2500 Cummins.
right? it's like how can one generation be AIGHT and the next it's like wtf did you do.
we've had a few 07ish tundras... they were minty AF when we wnt to sell, but then you read about the frame issues they had before it and it's like wtf.
market share talk moved here:
www.thechicagogarage.com
Pickup truck market share talk for all of 2019
fucking crazy numbers across the board. looks like the new rams and gm twins are chipping away at ferd late in the year last year. i wonder if "ford f-series" includes f450s + up with that nomenclature.... pretty vague. although, same wonder goes towards ram, wonder if the 4500 + stuff...
I have an 07 NNBS Silverado where they did this. The truck has 175k+ miles and is mechanically 100%, interior is 95%+. I take good care of her, she’s been an exceptional vehicle. Saying that, the rear wheel arches are rotted out. The underside of the bed rails are rusted out, being held together by the spray-in bed liner. The roll pans (both sides) are completely gone. They did a shit job in that area.
Angers me because I love the truck and have always planned on keeping it forever, still do. But would need to replace the whole bed and that’s some serious $$$.
Looking at all the reviews (professional, friendly) and comments, I suspect my replacement will be a RAM, they’re really doing great lately. But hopefully not for years to come, cause I’m attached to my truck.
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