Lebanon Ford is at it again

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Jesus. Add $4k for the half shafts and oil pump gears. Unless you want to hook once.
 

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On a more serious note. How are they getting these packages past the EPA?

Its one thing for a aftermarket shop to mod a car. Or for an owner to do it themselves. As long as the car still passes emissions its pretty much invisible to the EPA.

But when you sell a brand new car and advertise it with the package isn't it way more visible to the EPA and might bring their wrath down?
 

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On a more serious note. How are they getting these packages past the EPA?

Its one thing for a aftermarket shop to mod a car. Or for an owner to do it themselves. As long as the car still passes emissions its pretty much invisible to the EPA.

But when you sell a brand new car and advertise it with the package isn't it way more visible to the EPA and might bring their wrath down?
I think the whipple kits are carb approved but not positive
 

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Fn awesome! First thing I also thought of was emisión tests. It wouldn’t be a problem for three years until you get that friggin notice though.
 

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As long as you have cats, I don't know how you wouldn't pass. My car passes emissions without issue, granted I'm a little south of 1,000hp.
 

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Fn awesome! First thing I also thought of was emisión tests. It wouldn’t be a problem for three years until you get that friggin notice though.
If it has catalytic converters and all emissions systems working, it should pass with no issue.

Also, in Illinois, you can pass with one monitor not ready. Including, oddly enough, the monitor for the cats. lol
 

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Wouldnt you melt the cats at that power level? I did it on my Pro Charged 08 Jeep SRT. I know a lot of the Hellcat guys, myself included when I had mine have to go with catless mids once you approach 800whp.
 

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If it has catalytic converters and all emissions systems working, it should pass with no issue.

Also, in Illinois, you can pass with one monitor not ready. Including, oddly enough, the monitor for the cats. lol
That's odd. My 2V failed when I had the o2 sensors turned off in the tune.
 

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That's why. You can't have them turned off. They have to be on but can be "Not ready" if it is the only monitor not ready.

See blueoval4life's pic.
The sucky part is . If you don't monitor it and take your car in and fail the first time. Then it don't matter. The next test "ALL" have to be in ready state. So don't fail the first test!
 

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I have never run into this as I always check the monitors first. Interesting. Thanks for the heads up!
Well its specific to the catalyst monitor. Which for most of us is the key one. So if you fail with catalayst code your first test your pretty much screwed it needs to be "ready" for the retest. Which is not possible without reinstalling the CATS :p

Remember, vehicles are rejected when more than two (2) non-continuous readiness monitors are “not ready” for 1996 to 2000 model year vehicles, or when more than one (1) non-continuous readiness monitor is “not ready” for 2001 and newer model year vehicles. Additionally, the catalyst monitor must be “ready” at the time of any retest after a vehicle failed an initial test for any catalyst code.
 

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