🔧 BUILD LAME Turbo V6 Camaro

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Hello! Welcome to the shit show! I am updating this post in 2021 to explain what new readers are about to witness. If I knew that this thread and build were going to explode into what it is today, I would have started it out a lot different.

This car was (and still is) a basket case. The whole inspiration for starting this project was to start learning how to modify engines in a car that I didn't like. That way, if and when I screwed up, I wouldn't be ruining a nice car. It spiraled out of control from the first moment that I felt boost. I loved what I had created, but it took a ton of work to get to where I was. As soon as I got the car running nicely I was always saying "I'm going to fix______, and THEN I'll just enjoy driving it." You know the drill. Drive, break, fix, repeat! Before I knew it, I enjoyed driving and working on this turd more than the nice car I was trying to preserve!

The point is that the focus of this thread shifts A LOT. To complicate matters, I never have just one ongoing project open at a time. I listed some thread contents with links below. I will update this as new milestones or big updates happen. Just know that even if you click on the shortcut, you may have to scroll past other project posts to reveal the outcome. There are also some mini-projects and very helpful advice from other members in between, so read the whole dang thing if you want!

2018-2019
1. A late introduction
2. Discovering how a PCV works (and plugging it)
3. Custom grill for intercooler
4. Fuel pump trap door
5. Learning that I'll never learn anything from my goofy wide band gauge
6. Deleting AC completely, but retaining heat
2020
7. Low profile heater hose fittings
8. Deleting an air bag without setting a light on the dash
9. Starting a second round of floor repairs
10. ABS delete and line lock installation
- A separate thread for the electrons
11. Installing catch cans with nice brackets (Way overkill)
12. Figuring out the "blow by" problem once and for all (F-body intake plug)
13. Second clutch job, first rear cover job, and preliminary transmission swap research
14. Floors are "done", and Interior is installed.
15. I don't know how to tune, but this wide band might help.
16. Poly trans mount. Yeah, it actually deserves a link.
17. I waved the tuning white flag. Dyno Brian sets me straight!
18. T5 Pro5.0 shifter
19. New shifter was too much fun. OG T5 explodes, and my transmission conversion ideas start to get serious.
-TKX conversion
-TKX swap official write-up
20. Reconfiguring my exhaust for a quieter and less leaky future
21. I'm not done enjoying this car for the year, so I install a $100 T5 instead of a bulletproof conversion. SPOILER ALERT: It only lasts two months.
22. Minor repairs/updates that make the car livable (lighting, stereo, speedometer re-zero, and a clutch master cylinder that actually does it's job!)
23. Wheels and addressing rust again since I got time!
2021
24. Custom center caps
25. 1.9 roller rockers and LS6 springs
26. CAI V2.0
27. TKX is delayed so it's time to address the little annoyances.
-OE pan is junk. Dorman pan gets hot rodded
28. TKX is still delayed, so I install just one poly engine mount and beef up my flimsy turbo drain plumbing
29. TKX does NOT ship the following Monday. Flywheel bolts upgraded to ARP M10 x 1.0
30. When you're on a Chinese garbage budget, you better be ready to work harder. (Oil drain fitting hot rodding)
31. Finally repairing the oil sender pig tail, replacing the other engine mount, and test fitting the TKX.
32. Finally addressing rear brake lines while I wait for more transmission parts.
33. Modifying an ICM for a WOT box
34. Dash gets re-instrumented so that diagnostics become possible.
35. N2MB WOT box
36. Porked crank key. PSA: Be careful installing your balancer!
37. Car runs great after plug change, but the rear main seal needs to be changed again.
38. BURNOUT! Also, I kinda bought a cam.
39. Turbo drain finale (better be) and full exhaust commenced
2022
40. Downpipe V3 and BMR strut tower brace
41. Panhard bar and relocation for bro truck exhaust
42. Muffler, driveshaft, torque arm, and giving up smoking.
43. First trip to the GS Nationals (feat. time slip)
44. The very custom AC project is born
45. New dyno results (up 50 hp!)
46. Exhaust hanger repair before Michigan/S.S. Badger/Wisconsin trip
47. Sizing a better turbo
48. Painting but still not installing the IS3 heads and Monster clutch unboxing
49. Firewall brace
50. New ECM
2023
51. Out of storage and SC engine buy failure #3
52. Modified double roller and spitballing crankcase evac ideas
53. Completing the rear suspension. UMI rear control arms.
54. Cracked headers and L32 swap begins
55. My newest L32 was trash. I'm upgrading the L36 instead
56. Side project: The ultimate-ish intake manifold takes shape


Now back to 2018!
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Now that this car is running and driving, I figured I would start a thread dedicated to all the questions I’m about to pummel this group with. This is the first time I've really built anything to move quicker than stock, so I'm hoping to learn a lot from you guys before I make unnecessary mistakes. I also have a thread in the Turbobuick.com 3800 section, but I'm not getting as much input there due to a lack of audience. Here goes nothing...

The car I have is a 2002 Camaro with only ONE factory option (rear window defogger). The story supposedly goes that my buddy's dad was looking forever for a new Camaro because he never buys anything for a penny more than the best deal. He almost ran out of time as this was the final model year for the F-body, and '03s were already on the market. The dealer from which he found this car bought it for the sole purpose of being able to advertise "Brand new Camaros for under $10k", so this was the one he took home.

Fast forward to 2018. The car was structurally a wreck from living in the rust belt, but has a great interior, okay black paint, a third pedal, a 3800 (which is a plus in my book), and a lot of sentimental value since I remember riding in it when it was brand new. My buddy’s dad handed me the keys in hopes that I would enjoy it and make it a race car. To be honest, I don’t care for F-bodies, but I couldn't resist this one for the reasons above despite knowing that the floors were in desperate need of existing again.

I already had my dream car which is a 1986 Buick Regal Grand National. As much as I love that car, I like it the way it is in fairly stock form and modifying Buicks has gotten terribly expensive anyway. I figured a black 3800 Camaro could easily fulfill my childhood dreams of racing a badass turbo Buick V6 car while being on a budget, so here I am.

The car is now equipped with:
-6765 ebay turbo
-Precision PW40 wastegate
-Custom turbo exhaust utilizing a stock Camaro and FWD manifolds
-Air to air ebay intercooler
-AEM 50-1200 fuel pump
-Siemens Deka 80# fuel injectors
-Open 3” downpipe
-Custom 3” charge pipes
-Intense mail order tune
-Very ugly but functional upright radiator conversion (the core support was all just rust anyway) :dunno:
-Custom space saving AC delete without bypass pulley
-Midwest Chassis bumper support modified to mount my intercooler
-Spec Stage 1 clutch kit

The car is far from refined and has a lot of little issues to sort out, but I will leave the first post as sort of an introduction to that. I hope you enjoy hearing about it. It’s been fun to build!

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GS Nats is next week yo! That's why I'm thrashing!

By the way, floor mat mod happened. Don't worry, I bought my wife a new nicer mat BEFORE I cut up the old one. ?
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Damn this is dumb, but if it actually works I'll scratch that and call it genius. ? It can't be worse than the crap I pulled out.
 

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I'm really tempted to take a day off for GS nationals. The car is still in one piece at the moment but I am chomping at the bit right now to start pulling things apart to rewire the thing and swap in the spare motor I'm doing the cam swap on.
There's a cars and coffee in Nashville on Saturday that I'm waiting to do before I disassemble the thing but another week might not break the schedule...
Bowling Green is very close to me too so it wouldn't even be a big deal to get there.

I've never been myself but are there days I should try and attend either way? Saturday is easily a possibility with/without the GP
 
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I'm really tempted to take a day off for GS nationals. The car is still in one piece at the moment but I am chomping at the bit right now to start pulling things apart to rewire the thing and swap in the spare motor I'm doing the cam swap on.
There's a cars and coffee in Nashville on Saturday that I'm waiting to do before I disassemble the thing but another week might not break the schedule...
Bowling Green is very close to me too so it wouldn't even be a big deal to get there.

I've never been myself but are there days I should try and attend either way? Saturday is easily a possibility with/without the GP
This is is definitely the year for you to go. This is rumored to be the last year of having the Nats in BG. ? I think it has to do with the cost of track rentals going up.

If I could only go for one day, I'd pick Friday. The car show is judged early that morning, and attendance will be the highest. Saturday is exciting because that's the eliminations day for racing, but a lot of the car show cars have already left by that time.
 
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The shitty welcome mat thing checks out. It's time to get the console back in, but first I need to repair it. You know 2000s GM and their plastics.
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There's a split hear from the factory. The factory bond just let go. I tried to rig this together a year or two ago, but I tried doing it with a zip tie as filler which is not the same material as the console. I also never tried to add any extra support. At that time, I was pretty new to plastic repair and scared of making a visible boo boo, so cut me some slack! I don't have any before pictures, but here's the after. This time we have two hog rings buried in there perpendicular from each other. I also cut some unnecessary material from another part of the console as filler. This sucker is solid and not breaking in the same spot again. It's really not hard. I don't know why more people don't try this.
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You have to be a dingus to make a visible oopsie in most cases too. Attention 4th gen people! Save your money. Don't buy a new console. A $10 soldering iron is much cheaper. This only took a half hour.
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She's back together! I found a way to clamp the boot into the knob so that no handle is showing without limiting the throw. I think it looks so much better although I would really like to try a handle that's an inch shorter. In other news, I decided much too late that I wanted a new console lid for the Nats. I can't get any to show up before Wednesday. :( Oh well. It's going to be a long, hot, uncomfortable, AC-less trip to in Bowling Green in my tint-less aquarium, but it will feel so glorious to finally do something cool with the car.
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I then vacuumed the car for the first time in probably two years because A) I'm super happy with this car right now, and B) a local custom car shop and Indy Race team in the same complex are hosting a C&C! l'll do a good wash some time this weekend and get packing!
 

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Dude, I'm pretty sure I have a nice console in my pile of junk. I bought a nice whole one used because it was cheaper than a new lid and never used the bottom of it...
Lucky! Of course you can get one from a yard if you can find a nice one there, but I see meh grey ones going for $180 online before shipping. I ended up paying full price for a lid because I'm a chump, but the "updated" aluminum ones seem like a good idea for my car. I don't care if it looks exactly correct. I just want it to look decent and stay comfy without breaking. My old one was so trashed that it wouldn't stay closed and the plastic was cutting my elbow.
 
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You cover shipping you can have this one. It's not like I don't have another in the parts car. The lids are definitely the prize piece.
Lol fuck. I already bought one a couple hours ago. You by chance have a black passenger side air vent? Mines grey and it looks really stupid on my black dash.
 

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The weather this weekend just couldn't have been better. I went to to the C&C and it has to be one of the coolest out there. Most of the industrial park it's held at is filled with auto related businesses. Custom car shops, Indy race teams, a shop that specializes in Porches Carrera GTs, window tinters, and a Simpson outlet were all basically open houses.
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I can't say I've seen that many in one place. I probably never will again.
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Carbed Ford 2.3 in an Indy car? Lol. The prior pics were at least Mazdas.
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LSA in a Wrangler
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DeSoto on a Crown Vic frame. 4.6 5-speed.
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2CV on a trip from LA to Paris. At 29hp, it must be a very long trip.
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The day was still young, so my wife and I went to another cruise in the afternoon. We saw some neat stuff. The first one is my favorite though.
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3.5L Ecoboost 10-speed swap on E85. Lol
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Today I decided to start sprucing the car up a bit for Nats. She was incredibly dirty. This is the most effort I've ever put into the paint because it's trashed, but damn. It sure looks pretty awesome at the moment though! My whole body hurts. I think I spent 4 hours waxing it by hand. I have a lot to go too.
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Of course you would never know about all the blemishes anyway since they don't really show up on camera. ? After work tomorrow I'll finish the wax, detail the wheels, and pack my bags!
 

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At least yours is shiny ? hell mine seems to be about three colors of red with a saggy front bumper and half the clear bubbled off of the hood. Looks like you had a blast though that's awesome!
Mines trying to to that. It's doing it in such an odd way too.
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All these little bubbles are the clear coat separating from the base. It's super weird. I can take a plastic scraper and knock them off which actually looks a lot better than the bubble. They're big enough that they actually hold junk and then make lines like rust would as it oozes out on the road. That was the most satisfying shit to buff out because a wash doesn't cut it and the the lines look terrible.

As for the bumper, do you have a Midwest chassis support bar?
 
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I don't I've just kinda tried to do some messing with factory supports and could probably still do better. My sail panel still looks awesome but the victory red parts haven't fared as well. At some point I'd like to sand it down and respray it as I don't have much rust other than a couple spots in the rear floor pans but that'll be somewhere down the line after I can make sure it's somewhat reliable to drive
 

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I don't I've just kinda tried to do some messing with factory supports and could probably still do better. My sail panel still looks awesome but the victory red parts haven't fared as well. At some point I'd like to sand it down and respray it as I don't have much rust other than a couple spots in the rear floor pans but that'll be somewhere down the line after I can make sure it's somewhat reliable to drive
The worst part about having a factory black Camaro is that I can't get away with trying to spray bomb the roof sail panel. I like seeing them black anyway, but matching it to a factory black car would be horrible. Lol
 
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Fuck man those car shows had like fucking everything.
It was really awesome. There were a lot firsts for me there and I couldn't get pictures of all of them due to crowds. I think I stopped and stared at that Lamborghini Miura for about 5 minutes. There was nobody to talk to about it. It was so beautiful and perfect that I couldn't stop looking. Lol
 
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Mines trying to to that. It's doing it in such an odd way too.
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All these little bubbles are the clear coat separating from the base. It's super weird. I can take a plastic scraper and knock them off which actually looks a lot better than the bubble. They're big enough that they actually hold junk and then make lines like rust would as it oozes out on the road. That was the most satisfying shit to buff out because a wash doesn't cut it and the the lines look terrible.

As for the bumper, do you have a Midwest chassis support bar?

My Camaro had that as well. I was told by the body shop the glue they used for the sail panel is eating through the panel and causing the bubbles. Painting it won’t help much because once the glue gets hot again it will push through the paint. Only fix that I know that works is to remove and replace it with a new one.
 
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