Movie Joker
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Yeah, i mean I guess I do look for some sort of plotline and progression, not a movie full of clips (some real, some imagined) that prove that arthur is, in fact, mentally ill. That doesn't do much for me.
I think the last scene would have been great if it actually happened and rallied all of the other gotham plebs around arthur, but given the fact that he didn't go on TV and shoot Murray, it just makes you question the whole ending.
They also pulled a complete 180 for Thomas wayne. In the nolan movies he was a philanthropist that paid to build a monorail and created the Wayne Foundation whose goal was to reduce poverty, help cover healthcare expenses, fund the youth club or whatever it was called (i think that was referenced in TDK rises), etc
That total direction change wasn't believable, nor was it believable that Wayne would take his family out on the night of riots against the rich. So again...aside from joaquin's acting....not a great movie
That total direction change wasn't believable, nor was it believable that Wayne would take his family out on the night of riots against the rich. So again...aside from joaquin's acting....not a great movie
Except that is exactly what happened. Nothing in the movie indicates that any of that was in his head. The "he imagined it" is the worst fan theory to come out of any movie EVER. I've had to say this in this thread like 1000000x, but I guess I'll say it again. The movie went out of its way to show *explicitly* the events that happened that he imagined. They did this for the benefit of the audience, and only the benefit of the audience. At no point is there even a *hint* that any of the major events (ESPECIALLY the talk show) did not happen.
So again, you didn't understand it. If you thought it was a bad movie, then cool that's your opinion. But to base it on something that is obviously false is a bit ridiculous.
This movie has zero connections to the Nolan universe other than having characters with the same name.
I'd hoped it was a real scene, but MAN did it seem unrealistic. They bring an awkward loser on a talk show for a full segment, they let him on with a full clown mask, there is not much of a response of fear when he says he killed the 3 people on the train (Murray even continues interviewing him and pressing him for answers), etcetc.
The scenes with his "girlfriend" had the same totally unrealistic vibe, and they end up being imagined
This is a matter of perspective though. The Nolan movies were in a Batman hero perspective. The Joker was from a empathy with Joker perspective. In real life, even the nicest of philanthropists, have people out there that likely think they are total assholes (they probably are assholes in some aspects of their lives, we all have been at times).
This part isn't believable at all...but falls into the allowance of suspension of disbelief for these kinds of movies.
Finally watched this. Really intense movie that explains the possible background of the Joker character IMO. I did enjoy it overall, but man was it dark. I like that it tied his character to a very real thing in society that people can be a product of their environment. Phoenix was really really good.
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and i think i need to think more now after reading this thread.
and likely rewatch the movie.
Finally got around to watch this and enjoyed it. Not a great movie but has great acting obviously that elevates it as a movie.
I just got done watching it not even a half hour ago, what do you want from me? I haven't watched it 12 times yet like you
I bought it on amazon...is there a way for me to transfer it to you? If so it’s yours, I won’t watch it againcan i have your digital code then?
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