Had to buy COPs...for the first time

Zack

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Ive had 6 MM's and never a bad COP.
This beater Marauder I bought runs great unless the load is high and you can hear it breaking up through the exhaust.

I swapped 1 coil from hole to hole and it never went away, but it 'changed' to a degree which tells me there are many bad coils.

Ordered 8 FRPP coils from Tousley for $224 shipped. Boooya! They are listed for 2007-2010 GT500 but are identical to Marauder Coils.

I think I may know why they failed:
When I got the beater running for the first time and was filling the cooling system, the fan never came on. I was datalogging temp and it was at 215 degrees. I checked the connector, tapped the fan and nothing. (keep in mind I bought this thing dead so I didnt know the history)
Swapped another fan in and same shit! Turns out the Diablo tune the car had in it had the fan programmed somewhere north of 215. WTF

Id bet that years of excess heat not only killed that engine, but the coils as well.
COPs arrive Friday.
 

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I've gone through a few COPs in my Mustang. I was told that it is very rare for them to go out, but I've replaced mine twice in six years.

Though I didn't replace all of them the first time, maybe just two. Then when it started happening again, I just replaced all of them. It is such a pain in the ass to find the suspect coil, so I just got eight new ones.

Sounds like you got a good deal. I think I paid about $350 for my stock replacements a few years back.
 

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FYI FRPP parts (in this case) are cheaper than the OEM brand name....but same part lol.
 

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How do you test them to see if they're good or bad?
 

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I think my tuner suggested replacing them all with new ones. Then swap one of the new ones with an old one, one at a time. If it doesn't misfire, then the coil is good. It'd be easiest on a dyno, but dyno time is expensive and it might be cheaper to just replace them all.
You could probably test on the street too.
 

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The easiest way is to hook them up to a Ford IDS machine and stress test them.

If you dont know a buddy in the biz that can hook you up, the cost of testing is just not worth it.
 

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I should have mentioned that too. I didn't know anyone that could test them on the cheap.
 

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Woo hoo back to running properly. Wonder how many years its been for that car.
 

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The easiest way is to hook them up to a Ford IDS machine and stress test them.

If you dont know a buddy in the biz that can hook you up, the cost of testing is just not worth it.
Is it possible for them to work when they're cool and then not work when the motor is heated up? Or maybe become weak?

I'm having a misfire problem with my Cobra but it only does it when the motor is heated up..:thinking:
 

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Is it possible for them to work when they're cool and then not work when the motor is heated up? Or maybe become weak?

I'm having a misfire problem with my Cobra but it only does it when the motor is heated up..:thinking:
Just replace the boots
 

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Just replace the boots
That could be the problem...but boots cost 75 bucks.
I wrapped the ends of my boots in electrical tape to essentially bring the I.D. back down to normal...no change.

I did notice the car runs way better cold than hot.
 

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U guys should try a colder plug. My car doesn't like any plug besides a TR6. With or without boost
 

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I know people say spark plug wires are gay but maybe sometimes they're not lol.
The Ford ignition stuff is actually pretty good, just the COPs are more expensive.
They do save room under the hood though compared to plug wires.
 

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If you're getting a miss at idle, finding the bad COP is pretty easy: unplug the fuel injectors one cylinder at a time with the engine running. If you unplug one and the engine runs worse, you've found a good COP. If you unplug one and the engine runs the same, you've found a bad COP.
You could also do this for a miss under load, but it might get harder to tell the intermittent miss from the forced miss.
 

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