Ford Ford is investigating its fuel economy and emissions testing

EmersonHart13

Member Selfie
Donating Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2007
Messages
46,954
Reaction score
1,053
San Francisco (CNN Business)Ford is investigating the testing procedures it uses to certify its fuel economy and emissions standards after employees raised concerns about potential inaccuracies.

It has hired an outside firm to look into the testing process the company said in a statement on Thursday.

Ford has also brought on independent experts and will be using an outside lab throughout the investigation.

Ford has already identified potential concerns with how it calculates road load, which is the force on a vehicle while driving at a constant speed over a smooth and level surface. The first vehicle it's investigating is the 2019 Ranger, but it will eventually test others.

Ford has voluntarily disclosed the potential issue with both the Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board, it said.

Automakers generally do their own fuel economy testing based on strict criteria and mathematical formulas. They then report the results to the government.

The company said the investigation and potential concerns do not involve the use of so-called "defeat devices" software that can be used to cheat emissions testing.

A group of employees first raised questions about the process in September.

"At Ford, we believe that trust in our brand is earned by acting with integrity and transparency," the statement said. "As always, we strive to be transparent with our customers, employees, dealers, shareholders and other stakeholders. We understand how important it is to all audiences that we thoroughly yet swiftly complete this investigation," the statement said.

It's unclear what will come from Ford's investigation. However, other car manufacturers have had to respond to inaccurate fuel economy reporting in the past.

In 2012, the EPA found that Hyundai and Kia inadvertently overstated the fuel economy of their cars and SUVs.

As a result, they instituted a program that gives customers debit cards to make up for the extra gas they're using compared to what the fuel economy was stated when they bought their cars.
:ford:
 

LikeABauce302

5.0 ftw
Joined
Aug 27, 2013
Messages
1,622
Reaction score
36
Location
South suburbs
I've never touched the MPG numbers that were listed on the window sticker of my Ecoboost Escape. I get about 21-22 MPG no matter how I drive it.
 

Ryan02Stang

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 19, 2004
Messages
10,332
Reaction score
272
Location
Mount Prospect
I get the advertised highway mileage in my truck but 1-3 miles less than what they say for city.
 

Blood on Blood

rumble baby rumble
Joined
Apr 6, 2005
Messages
36,427
Reaction score
220
So did my 2013 F150 5.0

I saw a new Ranger in person for the first time. The rake made it look odd and the Ford Edge facial is very tame.

Hopefully the aftermarket is strong in the cosmetics, suspension and performance
 

Kensington

Well-known member
Donating Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2017
Messages
8,168
Reaction score
226
I get the advertised mileage for my EcoBoost Flex :dunno:
 

Kensington

Well-known member
Donating Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2017
Messages
8,168
Reaction score
226
My Flex is rated at 16/21, I thought it was rated higher, honestly.

I never get below 16 even in winter. Usually around 17/18 mixed driving. Pure highway, if I stick to 70, I can get 24, but realistically with the cruise set at 75-80 it's around 21-22.
 

bmoore04

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 30, 2010
Messages
3,381
Reaction score
5
Location
Winfield IL
My Focus says 28 city 38 highway. I usually average 31-32 maybe mid 30s on a long trip.
 

01Cobra

Johnny Cobra
Joined
May 3, 2006
Messages
7,617
Reaction score
20
Realistic 18mpg on both the edge sport and fusion sport city driving with heavy foot. Ecoboost sucks the fuel down.
 

Ryan02Stang

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 19, 2004
Messages
10,332
Reaction score
272
Location
Mount Prospect
Same here. '18 3.5 with 10 speed. 22mpg mixed driving in the summer, 20 in the winter with frequent 5 minute warmups
Are you putting it in "Eco" mode or just leaving it in "Normal." I've been ~15mpg or so this winter and haven't really been able to get better.

I think what kills me is I only drive 3 miles to work and its all stop and go.
 

N20GT

Plz place 3,000 kudos here. kthx
Joined
Sep 6, 2006
Messages
47,173
Reaction score
460
Location
Crown point, IN
Are you putting it in "Eco" mode or just leaving it in "Normal." I've been ~15mpg or so this winter and haven't really been able to get better.

I think what kills me is I only drive 3 miles to work and its all stop and go.
I keep it in "normal". 15mpg is crazy bad, i get 14mpg towing a 14' enclosed trailer at 75mph

How many miles per month do you drive? 3 miles stop and go would do it if that's what makes up most of your driving
 

Ryan02Stang

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 19, 2004
Messages
10,332
Reaction score
272
Location
Mount Prospect
I keep it in "normal". 15mpg is crazy bad, i get 14mpg towing a 14' enclosed trailer at 75mph

How many miles per month do you drive? 3 miles stop and go would do it if that's what makes up most of your driving
I do 400-500 miles a month. That 3 miles stop and go is probably half of those miles.
 

01Cobra

Johnny Cobra
Joined
May 3, 2006
Messages
7,617
Reaction score
20
Are you putting it in "Eco" mode or just leaving it in "Normal." I've been ~15mpg or so this winter and haven't really been able to get better.

I think what kills me is I only drive 3 miles to work and its all stop and go.
Car still in open loop when you get to destination lol!
 

GTPpower

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 5, 2012
Messages
2,280
Reaction score
83
Location
Nebraska
Yeah, my 13 drank lots of fuel on really short trips. And going faster than 60 mph. Or driving into a head-wind.

I have a picture somewhere of the mpg gauge from when I was pulling my enclosed trailer into a really strong headwind. I drove about 40 miles like that with a result of about 5mpg.
 

The Beast

Forum Sponsor
TCG Sponsor
Joined
May 24, 2004
Messages
14,202
Reaction score
320
Ryan trade it on a 2.7 your gas mpg should climb 6 mpg
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Top Bottom