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Jimbo

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TCG experts disagree with this clown.
LOL from the X comments:

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Bob Kazamakis

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I get all that.

I guess at that point sorry to the .0001% (whatever the shocking low number is) of intersex people just cant compete in the olympics because they wouldnt meet the standards set forth by the IOC.
This is the actual answer to all of this.

Set the rules and if you don’t meet them then sorry. Bending the rules or modifying them for the VERY minute amount of people out there that can’t be distinguished easily is silly. The line needs to be somewhere and it’s a go or no-go.
 

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WSJ for the win again, this brought a lot of clarity

What happened in that Olympic women’s boxing match? Imane Khelif of Algeria pummeled Angela Carini of Italy for 46 seconds before Ms. Carini threw in the towel. The Algerian boxer is biologically male but allowed to compete in the female category, raising concerns about fairness and safety. Imane Khelif isn’t transgender, but the language of transgender ideology has led to widespread confusion.

Trans-identified men have fought women, with disastrous results. Fallon Fox inflicted a concussion and an orbital-bone fracture on an opponent in 2014 and has bragged on social media about injuring women in the ring. But Imane Khelif appears to have what is known as a difference of sexual development, or DSD, not a transgender identity. DSDs are complex and confusing enough without the added layer of ideological jargon. Here’s what we know—and don’t know:

The International Boxing Association disqualified Imane Khelif from the 2023 Women’s World Boxing Championships for failing two laboratory tests. The IBA didn’t specify the tests but said they weren’t related to testosterone levels.
In 2023, IBA President Umar Kremlev stated that several boxers had been disqualified from IBA competition following ā€œa series of DNA tests,ā€ later clarifying that these athletes ā€œhad XY chromosomesā€ā€”that is, they were genetically male. IBA rules define ā€œWomen/Female/Girlā€ as ā€œan individual with chromosome XX.ā€ We can therefore deduce that Imane Khelif was disqualified for having XY chromosomes.
DSDs can prevent a person who is genetically male from developing male physical traits. One is Swyer syndrome, which occurs when the SRY gene on the Y chromosome, which directs male development, is missing or inactive. Without this gene, the body can’t develop testes. Instead, the gonads remain undifferentiated. No testes means no testosterone production, so the fetus develops female internal and external anatomy. The lack of testosterone also prevents male puberty, a process that confers masculine features and a physical advantage in sports. Given Imane Khelif’s masculine features and upper-body muscle mass, we can almost certainly rule out Swyer syndrome.
Another possibility is complete or partial androgen insensitivity syndrome, known respectively as CAIS or PAIS. Persons with this condition have XY chromosomes, develop normal testes, and produce male levels of testosterone. But their cells have defective androgen receptors that respond poorly if at all to testosterone.
People with complete androgen insensitivity exhibit a totally female external presentation, despite being biologically male. Given Imane Khelif’s androgynous appearance, complete androgen insensitivity can be ruled out. Partial androgen insensitivity is a possibility. Individuals with PAIS undergo a partial male puberty, which confers physical advantages in sports, justifying their exclusion from the female category.
The most probable DSD for Imane Khelif is 5-alpha reductase deficiency, or 5-ARD. People with 5-ARD have XY chromosomes and testes that produce testosterone. But because of a gene mutation affecting the 5-alpha reductase enzyme, their testosterone can’t be converted to dihydrotestosterone, which is essential for developing male genitals. People with 5-ARD, though biologically male, are born with female-appearing or ambiguous external genitals, leading to potential misidentification as female at birth. Many with 5-ARD are raised as girls, only discovering their condition at puberty when their internal testes trigger male puberty. This results in masculine features and a physical advantage over women in sports.
South Africa’s Caster Semenya, who won Olympic gold medals in the 800 meters twice, has 5-ARD. Transgender activists describe the runner as a ā€œcisgenderā€ woman with a vagina who ā€œnaturallyā€ produces high levels of testosterone. The mainstream-media misinformation campaign was so effective that many are unaware that Caster Semenya is biologically male with functioning testes and XY chromosomes. ā€œCisgenderā€ usually refers to people whose ā€œgender identityā€ matches their sex, but in this case it obscures the fact that the runner’s sex was misidentified at birth.
Why can Imane Khelif compete as a woman in the Paris Olympics despite having male chromosomes, visual evidence of high testosterone, and the IBA’s disqualification? Because in June 2023, the International Olympic Committee announced that boxing events at the Paris Olympics wouldn’t be run by the IBA, citing ā€œvery concerning issuesā€ with its ā€œgovernance and its refereeing and judging system.ā€ The IOC promised a new system that ā€œputs boxers firstā€ by ā€œlowering the complexity of the qualification process,ā€ but no guidelines were ever specified.
This incompetence is staggering. Allowing males to compete against females in any sport requiring strength or speed is unfair, but including them in women’s combat sports completely disregards women’s safety. It isn’t an exaggeration to say that disregarding biology in the name of ideology may get someone killed.
 

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sickmint79

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Oh he'd make you look bad for sure.
i agree with him on tons of shit, i'd happily chat with him about anything we disagree on and expect the conversation to be elevated far beyond the power of you and huggies as a combined superpower of delulu.

Unignored 'mint for a second. This is comedy gold.
the comedy is this coward blocking me after describing what is textbook not oversampling and me calling him out on it. begone, whither back to your safe space.
 

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i agree with him on tons of shit, i'd happily chat with him about anything we disagree on and expect the conversation to be elevated far beyond the power of you and huggies as a combined superpower of delulu.
He's a trump nutswinger. I'd love to see you two debate. You gonna call him names because he said he loves trump? GTFO you tool.
 

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He's a trump nutswinger. I'd love to see you two debate. You gonna call him names because he said he loves trump? GTFO you tool.
i don't call you guys names because you disagree with me, i call you stupid when you repeatedly state stupid things. i don't expect charlie kirk to tell me that when we disagree on something that oh well it's "just his opinion" and for him to bring zero data or logic to an argument. like it's fucking comical as hell you think you are even within the universe of analogous to him. i'll happily do it on a zoom call, you have your people set it up with charlie, my calendar is open

you actually fail to even grasp the basic fact that my problem with you both isn't because you're trumpers, you could vote for the libertarian candidate (somehow) and i'd still call you out every time for the exact same posts you make. it's not that i hate trump or trumpers, it's that i hate trash logic and you both have an exceptional talent for spewing it.
 

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i don't call you guys names because you disagree with me, i call you stupid when you repeatedly state stupid things. i don't expect charlie kirk to tell me that when we disagree on something that oh well it's "just his opinion" and for him to bring zero data or logic to an argument. like it's fucking comical as hell you think you are even within the universe of analogous to him. i'll happily do it on a zoom call, you have your people set it up with charlie, my calendar is open

you actually fail to even grasp the basic fact that my problem with you both isn't because you're trumpers, you could vote for the libertarian candidate (somehow) and i'd still call you out every time for the exact same posts you make. it's not that i hate trump or trumpers, it's that i hate trash logic and you both have an exceptional talent for spewing it.

I feel soo owned by two fucks on a car forum. :bowrofl:
 
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