Extension ladders?

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So I need to get an extension ladder. Pretty sure I'm not going to fuck with trying to get directly to the 2nd floor roof, so I just need something that will reliably get my fat ass (I'm a nice round 100kg atm but dropping) up to the 1st floor roof, and be stable enough on that roof to get me to the 2nd floor roof... I'm a giant pussy about heights but gutters and leaks don't maintain themselves and I'm tired of paying people. It'd also be used for other shit like when I wash the siding etc.... but the main thing I'm wondering about is stability when set up on a roof itself to get to another level.... I see a lot of these origami ladders but I wasn't sure if they would be good for what I'm looking for.

Don't really care if it's heavy. As Boris said, heavy means reliable.

I'd probably want something with rubber feet, or at least get rubber covers for the feet if they're plastic, right?

I've also toyed with the idea of affixing a metal ladder to the side of the house where I could get from that 1st floor roof to the 2nd but I don't see many people with this setup. Aside from people not liking it for aesthetic reasons, are there other drawbacks if anchored and sealed properly?

I mean, it's not like I'm waffling over spending a bunch of money on something I may or may not like, but I wanted to get some input on the stuff that could mean the difference between ending up broken or not. Brands, designs, and/or materials to stay away from, etc... I'll be going solo a vast majority of the time and I'd like to not fuck myself up too bad if it can be avoided. And I see these cap type things they have so that you can easier get back on the ladder on the way down or whatever... I always found that part the most hairy (like I said I've got an issue with heights), are those worth it?

Not sure when I got so antsy with heights... when I was a kid I used to climb our antenna tower all the way to the top of our roof, which is higher than this one, and used to climb all the trees way higher than I should have. But now for some reason I'm all emo about it.

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I have every ladder from 2' to 32' and I use werner with zero issues.
Not sure if I would trust a ladder on the roof to get to the next floor??
I would be nervous about damaging the shingles more than falling.
All extension ladders I've ever owned has a rubber pad, and some have spikes also, but always have a rubber pad.

Good luck, BE SAFE!!!!




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No issues with fiberglass then?

Dunno if I want to solo it up to the 2nd floor roof and back down man. That's a long ways up. The guy who came to see if he could get us LOS Internet had to do the one roof to another method. Looked sketchy as fuck but he lived.

Honestly I'd love to just install a fixed ladder so I can climb right out the 2nd floor window and up a sturdy platform, maybe I should just do that?

I mean, I'd still need a modest extension ladder for everything else but maybe that's the best solution for the top?
 

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If a Werner ladder can hold me at 200 lbs plus 40-50 lbs of tools and tool belt while carrying an 80-90 lbs cable lasher you’ll be fine with weight. Some of our ladders are kept out in the elements from day one and are used daily and they last through years of abuse. From experience cheap ladders can hurt, make sure you get the options you need like rubber mounted adjustable feet with pivoting mud claws. If you’re worried about the ladder sliding on the roof go up and put an eye bolt or lag screw somewhere and tie off the ladder, it doesn’t take much to secure it from sliding and it takes less than you’d think to make it slide or pivot out.

Industrial Ladder and Supply is literally in the backyard of where I work in Villa Park and they’re usually cheaper than the big box stores, plus they have better ladders.

There used to be a guy in Gilberts that sold new and slightly used ladders out of his garage. Check craigslist but BUY A WERNER LADDER!!!!
 

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Comcast requires us to only use fiberglass, well I did start with wood extension ladders, but I;m old.
I trust fiberglass religiously!!!

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Comcast requires us to only use fiberglass, well I did start with wood extension ladders, but I;m old.
I trust fiberglass religiously!!!

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I’d rather be on my hooks than on a ladder, I trust it more and I hate ladders.
 

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I'd fiberglass first. being insulated is good.
 

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I use the orange (300 lb) limit Werner or Keller ladders. I've got a 28' that I used to climb up to the 2nd story roof most of last summer. I'm probably pushing 275 lbs with all my tools. With a bundle of shingles I'm well over 300 lbs.

I've got one of the multi ladders all aluminum. It's a 26' I believe. It's not much fun to use that on a 2 story. It's very bouncy.
 

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I’d rather be on my hooks than on a ladder, I trust it more and I hate ladders.
Way too old, way too much money in my pocket, I haven't climbed a pole in 20 years!!!!
You can have at it, no way I'm climbing anymore.
Plus I mostly do nodes or amps, I let the young guys do taps and climbing 20 plus poles a day.
I have 2 bucket trucks and looking for a 3rd, plus I did 4-5 poles today and made way more than a tapper doing 20 plus.


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32’er should be enough to get all the way up, no? Haven’t measured height to the 2nd floor roof....

What sort of stabilizers do you guys recommend? Headed to HD now.
 

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How tall are your walls? A 24' will usually do two levels of 8' walls. Like I said, I use a 28' for a little more stability.
 

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I was up on my roof a few days ago cleaning out the gutters and trimming branches from an oak tree. Regular aluminum extension ladder worked fine. I don't even need to extend it to get to the 1st floor roof.

My extension ladder is heavy enough and stays in place so that it's not difficult to make the transfer from ladder to roof and back again. I don't like flimsy ladders that may shift while I am transitioning.
 

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I need to do the same. 2-story house with a walkout basement so the length will need to be ginormous.

What do you guys use to go that far? Is it sketchy as hell?
 
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Yeah 8’, looks like 16’ from the base of the siding to the bottom of the gutter (using iPhone's measure thing). And a couple feet of foundation.

There’s a really slight decline going away, so that might add a small amount but not much.

I’ve been reading you want 3’ over the roof, that the listed max lengths aren’t really the max lengths, plus you’ve got some trigonometry to figure out how far you need the ladder to actually reach.... wasn’t sure also if it was less stable extended closer to max. So I don’t know really
 

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Yeah, they are less stable the longer you make them.

I'm not sure about home depot, but iirc menards has a display picture showing how long of a ladder you need.
 

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A 28 footer will reach the gutter on a 3 story building, I wouldn't try to get on the roof.
If you have a walk out, why would you try to climb on the basement side, climb on the front.

I've also climbed a 28 footer that was stretched to about 27 1/2' long by using the hooks to hold it vertically.
It was a little shaky, but it didn't break.
Fiberglass ladders are pretty damn strong!!!

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Yeah 8’, looks like 16’ from the base of the siding to the bottom of the gutter (using iPhone's measure thing). And a couple feet of foundation.

There’s a really slight decline going away, so that might add a small amount but not much.

I’ve been reading you want 3’ over the roof, that the listed max lengths aren’t really the max lengths, plus you’ve got some trigonometry to figure out how far you need the ladder to actually reach.... wasn’t sure also if it was less stable extended closer to max. So I don’t know really


Yes you want 3’ above the roof/gutter to get on and off the ladder. It’s not mandatory but it makes things a little safer and easier and it’s an OSHA requirement.
 

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Like you or I have followed the 3' rule!!!!!
I actually never heard of it. I get the job done without killing myself.

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Like you or I have followed the 3' rule!!!!!
I actually never heard of it. I get the job done without killing myself.

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Only applies to ascending and descending a roof when you have to get on and off the ladder. I think there’s a securing requirement on the roof as well via a lag bolt or tie downs. Then again OSHA regulations don’t apply to homeowners, just people that make a living off the work.
 
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I'd rather abide by such guidelines even though I don't have to, as I'd prefer to die doing something way cooler than cleaning moss or sticks off a roof.

EDIT: Ended up going with the 28' Werner fiberglass and a stabilizer bar. I wanted the one with adjustable feet but I don't think I'll need them and it was three weeks out. Thanks for the input.
 

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I need to do the same. 2-story house with a walkout basement so the length will need to be ginormous.

What do you guys use to go that far? Is it sketchy as hell?
yup, I need like a 50-60' ladder this spring cause of that equation.
 

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