Escalades are in serious trouble........

[Rent Free]

Comparing the previous gen Navigator to this is pretty pointless.

 

[Bub]

Point is Lincoln is finally getting a real competitor.

Rofl. K. How's the Continental doing??? I've only seen 1. I think it's a fantastic looking car. The door handles make my pants tight but Lincoln has and will always be the poor man's Cadillac.

 

[Bub]

what are you talking about get laughed at? nothing's being laughed at here.

Rofl.

I laughed at him.

 

[1quick]

I had no idea the navigators depreciated that bad

 

[Rent Free]

I had no idea the navigators depreciated that bad

I asked you in a different thread if youd settle for a Navigator because the price difference is gigantic there is no disputing that.

 

[Rent Free]

Rofl. K. How's the Continental doing??? I've only seen 1. I think it's a fantastic looking car. The door handles make my pants tight but Lincoln has and will always be the poor man's Cadillac.

O how are the Cadillac sedans selling? Cadillac sedans dont sell for shit either.

Ive seen plenty of new Continentals in Wash DC and here in Florida.

That being said everyone is buying SUVs and crossovers thats pretty apparent and been covered here.

Crossovers are destroying sedan sales no matter what brand you pick.

 

[FESTER665]

bro. that color is ugly AF. the interior is sweet but you're either drunk or colorblind if you like that.

I just watched the video of that Black Label version and that interior is flat out insane. This right here though I couldn't agree with more if I tried.

That interior he posted is straight up ugly. Like if that was the only color combo the interior came in they would sell two Navigators ugly.

It looks like ford turned their infotainment screen in an ipad with a clip mount. Other than the console I don't see where it's soooooo much better.

It works for Tesla?

 

[jason05gt]

lol



https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/2004-lincoln-navigator-7/6452935238.html



holy fuck these things are cheap as fuck

So are 2004 Escalades too. You’re cherry picking.

 

[Bub]

O how are the Cadillac sedans selling? Cadillac sedans dont sell for shit either.

Ive seen plenty of new Continentals in Wash DC and here in Florida.

That being said everyone is buying SUVs and crossovers thats pretty apparent and been covered here.

Crossovers are destroying sedan sales no matter what brand you pick.

There's no doubt there. I'm referring strictly that caddy sedans still sell meanwhile the return of the Continental has been meh. at best. Same with this navigator. No one is arguing that it looks great and is well designed. It simply doesn't stand a chance

 

[Rent Free]

I dont expect it to outsell the Escalade at all however the Navigator should pickup in sales.

Just me personally I think the Navigator looks better inside and out.

The good thing would be if they do tank in resale then Id get one for the wife. Used under 75k mile 2018 Navigator under 50k would be killer. That 450hp/510tq in a giant rolling living room yes please!

Even the mild refresh last gen Navigator when they went to the ecoboost engine have came way down in price within 2 years of new.

 

[FESTER665]

Maybe you should have titled the thread "New Navigator, so nice it might carve into Escalade sales"

instead of "Escalades are going to go extinct because the new Navigator is such an engineering marvel!"

 

[Rent Free]

I stand by the typical TCG attention whore title.....

 

[cacicgtp7]

Maybe you should have titled the thread "New Navigator, so nice it might carve into Escalade sales"

instead of "Escalades are going to go extinct because the new Navigator is such an engineering marvel!"

TCG never uses click bait titles.... ever.

 

[willizm]

1. i'd be willing to bet 99.9% of new escalade/navigator buyers don't give a FUCK as to how the seats fold. these things get bought by husbands for their wives to cart their kids to and from their water polo tournaments on the north shore.

Can't argue that.

I do think the previous generation escalades had better interior than Lincoln, but the newest generation the Lincoln has it hands down. The only question I have is, can it tow well.

 

[EmersonHart13]

Where the fuck is Lane at?

 

[Outlaw]

Simply put, it doesn't matter how nice Lincoln makes the navigator, consumers are still going to buy Escalades, and I'll still be getting picked up from the airport in Navigators.

 

[SMRTSS1]

I guess I’m in the 1% of Escalade/Tahoe owners that cares about how the rear seats fold flat and out of the way. Since I don’t use them I just pulled them out but it’d be nice if they were still there.

The new Navigators are nice but as said before they depreciate at a ridiculous pace that I can’t understand why. The ability to switch between 2wd, 4wd and AWD would be nice but isn’t a deal breaker for most people. The interiors on the ‘18 Navi’s is nice to a point but the haphazard screen placements look awkward and from what I’ve seen the 2nd row DVD monitors looked like iPads strapped to the front seats.

My biggest issue on the new ones is the gear selectors placement and looking like a Delco radio from the 70’s and 80’s. I can just see someone saying “Just need to change the temperature in here a bit........OH FUCK I PUT IT IN REVERSE!!!”

 

[RICH17]

I think you'd get used to it pretty fast. Plus it doesnt do anything if you press reverse doing 40 mph

 

[GG Allin]

What's nice about when Lincoln puts out a new car.....you can pick up a used one in a few short years for about $4500.

 

[Yaj Yak]

So are 2004 Escalades too. You’re cherry picking.

I dont know if i said they weren't cheap... ? but alright. here we go.

All i did was craigslist search navigator and that was one of the first to pop up.

I do stand by saying that the 2007 i found, with 200k miles, in barrington for $5200 is cheap as hell.

you will not find a 2007-2013 escalade for that cheap.

cheapest "real ad" escalades I found are these two, and the navigator looks like it's in much better shape than either of these, and the navi is $1,000 less...

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/ctd/d/2003-cadillac-escalade-esv/6450866630.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/2004-cadillac-escalade-esv/6437893980.html

and let's close this out with data....

I can definitely also say as will many others on here, your money goes MUCH further with used navigators than it does with used escalades.

 

[Yaj Yak]

I guess I’m in the 1% of Escalade/Tahoe owners that cares about how the rear seats fold flat and out of the way. Since I don’t use them I just pulled them out but it’d be nice if they were still there.

The new Navigators are nice but as said before they depreciate at a ridiculous pace that I can’t understand why. The ability to switch between 2wd, 4wd and AWD would be nice but isn’t a deal breaker for most people. The interiors on the ‘18 Navi’s is nice to a point but the haphazard screen placements look awkward and from what I’ve seen the 2nd row DVD monitors looked like iPads strapped to the front seats.

My biggest issue on the new ones is the gear selectors placement and looking like a Delco radio from the 70’s and 80’s. I can just see someone saying “Just need to change the temperature in here a bit........OH FUCK I PUT IT IN REVERSE!!!”

you're buying new?

 

[Yaj Yak]

I dont expect it to outsell the Escalade at all however the Navigator should pickup in sales.

Just me personally I think the Navigator looks better inside and out.

The good thing would be if they do tank in resale then Id get one for the wife. Used under 75k mile 2018 Navigator under 50k would be killer. That 450hp/510tq in a giant rolling living room yes please!

Even the mild refresh last gen Navigator when they went to the ecoboost engine have came way down in price within 2 years of new.

i honestly hope the navigator finally steals more sales.

it'd make GM actually have to try with the thing.

i 100% agree with you the navi looks better inside and out, even the expedition vs yukon/tahoe wins, and imo it has.

your under 50k 75k mile navi is probably less than 2 years away too

 

[Yaj Yak]

i also like that gear shifter, reminds me of the fuckin' nasty chrysler cars of the early 60's.

 

[Yaj Yak]

navigator 2007 and newer search:

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sear...riceasc&bundleDuplicates=1&min_auto_year=2007


escalade 2007 and newer search:

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sear...riceasc&bundleDuplicates=1&min_auto_year=2007


the lowest priced real ad navigators


https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/2007-linclon-navigator-loaded/6442856895.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/lincon-navigator/6419404806.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/2008-lincoln-navigator-fully/6454491471.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/2007-lincoln-navigator/6422691789.html


escalades...

12k 207k miles

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/cadillac-escalade/6447551697.html

12800 246k miles

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/cuidado-2007-cadillac/6450952164.html

13k 186k miles

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ctd/d/2007-cadillac-escalade-awd/6452131975.html

13k 160kmiles

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/ctd/d/2008-cadillac-escalade/6427025607.html

 

[RICH17]

If Navigators are going to be this good then i am all for it stealing the spotlight from Excalades so then maybe i could afford a 14+ someday soon