Eaton Swap COT woes finally Solved!!!!

[huh?!]

Did you degree the cams?

in the process....kinda ran into a snag (thought I had all the tools but apparently not LOL) and then a family tragedy occurred that took all my desire for anything (including my love/obsession for cars) away.

I believe he is working on it.

yes sir! thank you so much for your help thus far....and you may be getting another PM soon LOL!!!!!

 

[massacre]

and then a family tragedy occurred that took all my desire for anything (including my love/obsession for cars) away.

I am really sorry to hear this Yusuf, my condolences.

 

[RocsMerc]

Ignore the green wire, I was using it to test some engine grounds and it will be removed.

I'm reasonably happy with this, I still have another trick up my sleeve depending on how I want to plumb this. I'm definitely happy with the fit & finish of the kit. I had to dress one of the mounting tabs with a file to make it fit though but that's no big whoop.

I'm going to be using this kit for my Trilogy setup since I don't have the COT from Trilogy and when I called them up for the part, they wanted $1000 for it. I am also doing the rear head cooling mod the way Surge did as Zack advised in the first post, but there's one thing I'm just not understanding. With it plumed the way it is in this picture, how does the thermostat heat up to make it open? If the thermostat is closed, then there is no flow in the hoses coming off the heads into the stat housing. If there is no flow, than how does it get hot enough to open?

 

[Zack]

I'm going to be using this kit for my Trilogy setup since I don't have the COT from Trilogy and when I called them up for the part, they wanted $1000 for it. I am also doing the rear head cooling mod the way Surge did as Zack advised in the first post, but there's one thing I'm just not understanding. With it plumed the way it is in this picture, how does the thermostat heat up to make it open? If the thermostat is closed, then there is no flow in the hoses coming off the heads into the stat housing. If there is no flow, than how does it get hot enough to open?

If you place a thermostat in a pan of water on the stove, it opens, yet there is no flow.

LOL

 

[massacre]

I'm going to be using this kit for my Trilogy setup since I don't have the COT from Trilogy and when I called them up for the part, they wanted $1000 for it. I am also doing the rear head cooling mod the way Surge did as Zack advised in the first post, but there's one thing I'm just not understanding. With it plumed the way it is in this picture, how does the thermostat heat up to make it open? If the thermostat is closed, then there is no flow in the hoses coming off the heads into the stat housing. If there is no flow, than how does it get hot enough to open?

Who are you REALLY?

Look at the kit more closely and then you'll understand.
The stock 4v cooling system has a remote thermostat housing with a bypass thermostat located after the radiator.

This kit changes all that.
Everything about it.

Zack I LMAO at your answer....so damn true!

 

[RocsMerc]

Forgive me if I'm completely misunderstanding this. From my understanding of the stock system, the thermostat opens when the water flowing through the bypass gets hot. If the water in the lines is stationary, then why would it be hot? How does the hot water get from the heads to the thermostat to open it? Wouldn't there need to be flow to get the heat from the engine into the remote housing? I would think that it would be just standing cold water otherwise. I'm imagining it like the hot water in your sink. When the sink is off the water in the hot water pipe is cold until the hot water can flow up from the heat source. I'm not doubting that the setup works as pictured because it obviously worked out for you. I just would like to know where I'm not understanding it.

 

[massacre]

If the water in the lines is stationary, then why would it be hot?

The engine generates heat, which is transferred to the coolant and the water pump moves the coolant. The cooling system is under pressure( ~15psi).

This kit is nothing more complicated than a flathead V-8, or a pushrod V8. Hell, look at the 2v modulars, they have a traditional thermostat location and they work just fine.
This kit takes the needlessly complicated modular 4v remote bypass idea and gets rid of all of that, simplifying it so that it works like a traditional cooling system.
T-stat before radiator, no remote bypass garbage after the radiator.

It is nothing like a sink in your house

 

[Zack]

Just install it. Enough talk.

 

[massacre]

LOL sorry Zack, just trying to explain is all.

 

[RocsMerc]

Just install it. Enough talk.

Ok, lol. Thanks, I will.

 

[bugsyc]

cross over delete

!st. please excuse my ignorance,I'm not a "wrench" but,slowly learning.does this delete eliminate the need for the cooling head mod to the rear of the block???Also do you like this one better than the aluminum delete from MMR???

 

[musclemerc]

One has NOTHING to do with the other
Cross over delete- front of the engine
Cooling mod- rear of the engine

Kelly's kit is better than the MMR delete
Remember the MMR kit has no provisions for the 2 sensors on a Marauder COT

 

[bugsyc]

COT delete

I ask because the picture shows a fitting for head cooling mod.Does that mean you have to buy a head cooling mod seperatly???

 

[Zack]

:deadhorse:

 

[musclemerc]

I ask because the picture shows a fitting for head cooling mod.Does that mean you have to buy a head cooling mod seperatly???

No you don't have to, Kelly made provisions for a cooling mod, you could just plug the cooling mod port. It's only 3/8" NPT. Hardly enough for adequate cooling mod return

Why not install a cooling mod? Your adding a lot of heat with forced induction. Its a matter of time before you cook the rear cylinders. (IMO)

 

[musclemerc]

:deadhorse:

I know the feeling Zack, I've tried to help him and provide answers to his questions

One day maybe he'll get it

 

[bugsyc]

I guess I'm just not as sharp as you

We all can't be as smart as you...I ask because I'm trying to learn from the more experienced guys like you.As I said when I first started the post,"please forgive my ignorance"...

 

[Zack]

We all can't be as smart as you...I ask because I'm trying to learn from the more experienced guys like you.As I said when I first started the post,"please forgive my ignorance"...

With all due respect youve been asking the same questions for the last 4 years.

Time to start absorbing answers that have been given 10 times over.

 

[bugsyc]

play nice

Thank you and have a nice day..When I grow up,I want to be like you...

 

[massacre]

When I grow up,I want to be like you...

You should.

 

[Zack]

You should.

Rob FTW.

 

[RacerX]

Well, I guess I missed Zack and Rob being ghey!
How many of you have done the COT delete and can we see more pics.

 

[massacre]

Bill you can come and check out my car any time.

 

[Curless]

Anyone got a pic of this with an Eaton instal? I'd love to see one in all black like Zack's.

 

[Zack]

Anyone got a pic of this with an Eaton instal? I'd love to see one in all black like Zack's.

This kit is for the 'easy way out'
It costs almost as much as having me make a custom COT for you.

On a Marauder the lower hose will need customization to coincide with the thermostat being up top.

Food for thought.