Definitely not an inside job

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

why tho...

why would the government want to carry out the attacks?

"The Government" is an extremely broad term. I don't think the entire government had any clue what was going on.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

What were some of the policies pushed through under that very vulnerable time?

USA PATRIOT Act
The title of the Act is a contrived three letter initialism (USA) preceding a seven letter acronym (PATRIOT), which in combination stand for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001.

Those opposing the law have criticized its authorization of indefinite detentions of immigrants; the permission given to law enforcement to search a home or business without the owner's or the occupant's consent or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records. Since its passage, several legal challenges have been brought against the act, and federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions are unconstitutional.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

What were some of the policies pushed through under that very vulnerable time?

Chart: How 9/11 Changed the Law

www.motherjones.com

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

What were some of the policies pushed through under that very vulnerable time?

Five Laws and Regulations that Emerged from 9/11Law360

The events of 9/11 have directly impacted five ways federal laws and regulations changed.

Regarding Transportation Security Administration, blue-uniformed Transportation Security Administration agents are now at all airports and are one of the most visible legacies of 9/11. Soon after the attacks, as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, Congress authorized the creation of the TSA where airports previously had used private security guards.

The USA Patriot Act, passed by Congress a little over a month after 9/11 and largely still in place today, amended numerous existing laws including the federal anti-money laundering statute and the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970, to make them tougher on terrorism.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act saw major changes, and major controversy, around privacy. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was amended in both 2001 and 2008, and lowered the legal bar for the government to engage in wiretapping and other surveillance practices.

Material support laws expand anti-terror efforts by allowing the U.S. Department of Justice to prosecute not only terrorists, but those who provide support like money, training and weaponry to terrorists.
The creation of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which combats terrorism and other threats domestically and has promulgated regulations on everything from border security to natural disaster management, is the main federal agency to emerge from the attacks. The department was created by the Homeland Security Act of 2002, absorbing and reorganizing 22 existing federal agencies that deal with domestic safety, law enforcement and immigration.

Edward McAndrew, a partner at Ballard Spahr, said DHS and the ability it has developed to share information about terrorist threats across government agencies and at times with the private sector, also has provided a model for the federal government in tackling other emerging threats — like cybersecurity. "It created a paradigm that is now being used in terms of defending against cyberattacks," said McAndrew.

 

[SHARKBITEATTACK]

you mean all that wonderful jet fuel that went up in a GIGANTIC fireball?

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Ok so yea there was an initial blast that everyone in NYC saw/felt/heard but then a controlled burn afterwards. I’m not saying it melted the steel to the point it flowed like a liquid, just enough for it to loose enough of its strength and caused the building to buckle.

 

[SHARKBITEATTACK]

you have to take the whole picture into account, not just the event.

10 years before, during the event and 10 years after.

What was happening before 9/11 that got fast tracked as soon as it happened? Who was involved with that?

What happened during 9/11 that was odd? Like the fact that Osama Bin Laden supposedly planned the attacks, yet the Bush Adminstration rushed to get his family out of the country when it happened?



What happened after? What did the Bush Adminstration push through? Maybe just taking advantage of a bad situation? Took the most advanced military in the world over a decade to "find one guy and kill him?" Then they just "dump his body in the ocean." you know... to be respectful...

K

I’d like to think we captured his ass and tortured the shit out of him at gitmo.

I mean why would you “NOT” want to extract info from the worlds most powerful terrorist...

 

[sickmint79]

I’d like to think we captured his ass and tortured the shit out of him at gitmo.

I mean why would you “NOT” want to extract info from the worlds most powerful terrorist...

KSM is at gitmo.

where he was also tortured or if you care to dance around Real Torture vs "torture" etc. - I don't really care - either way it doesn't work like on tv, it's something shameful for our country to do, and it looks like different organizations have repeatedly reached the conclusion that not only is it not the best way to get information but it is one of the worst ways to get anything remotely usable because people will just tell you anything they think you want to hear so you can get them to stop. aside from that courts are not super keen on admitting the info either eh?

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Agreed. Torture doesn't work as well as implied in the movies.

 

[SHARKBITEATTACK]

tinfoilhat who was the real mastermind behind 911? and why did Saddam need to be removed?