Coolant in cylinders??? HELP

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Hey guys think i have a major problem here, while swapping my stock eaton for a ported blower i believe i may have dumped coolan into the bores. Here is what makes me think this.
When i stared the car, it took about 15 seconds then let out this wailing of a screetch (horrible to listen too), at first i thought it was something with the blower/belts, but i took the bet off and started the car up really quickly to see if the same noise would be found. With the S/C discounected (aka not spinning) from the system, car still made the screatching sound
Here is a short video of what it sounds like. Any sujestions/ideaswould be greatly appreciated!
car did NOT run for more then 30seconds in said condition, shut it down asap and have not turned it over since.
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the lower intake was part way removed from the car
 

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Sounds like an elk fleeing from a wolf. Jeebus.
 

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Pull the plugs and crank it to clear any fluid in the cylinders, since you're obviously not wanting to take it apart again.

What exactly do you mean the lower was "partially" removed?
 

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guess you could say it was removed.... i started pulling it out, was almost out then i realized it could stay in.

should i pull the plugs and turn it over, or change the oil first????
 

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im getting some people saying on svtperformance that it could be a gasket that is messed up.... Personally i think its way to loud to be a gasket somwhere on the intake track that is not sealing, but what do you guys think?
 

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Well you cant compress liquids so if you had coolant in there you would have bigger problems
 

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guess you could say it was removed.... i started pulling it out, was almost out then i realized it could stay in.

should i pull the plugs and turn it over, or change the oil first????
yeah, I'm not sure what the lower gaskets look like on a Ford, but I'm guessing you probably jacked the gaskets under there.

As for the oil, check it before you just drain it. You will probably be able to tell if the oil has been contaminated w/coolant. However, coolant is the devil around bearings, so if you suspect that it has been its HIGHLY recommended that you change it as a safety precaution.

Pulling the plugs doesn't cost anything, and it will clear the cylinders. However, even just running for 30 seconds, that's more than enough to clear the bulk of whatever was in there. If there was a ton, it wouldn't have even turned over fully.

So back to my original theory, check vacuum. A botched gasket will cause all sorts of funny things, from running like crap to making crazy howling dog noises. :rofl: Do you have a boost gauge?Does it look "normal" to you at idle? Does the car pull -20# at idle?

Belts - did you get your tensioner into the correct spot (aka: are you running the proper belt length)? These cars are very touchy about their belts and can make some ugly noises. I did see that you said you'd removed the blower belt and the noise was still there, so its unlikely that its the belt.
 

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no boost guage on the car, but after talkign about it, im pretty sure it would have been the bottome gasket.... so if it turns over and runs, but makes the howling noise, even with belt removed (so we know it couldnt of been the tensioner) would you say its safe to assume its a gasket?
I was thinking drain oil, make sure nothing is in there, and order up an all new set of gaskets for the car
 

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That's a pretty safe bet. I'd start tear down with a close eye out for issues to locate the cause, but I'd put $ on the lower intake to cyl head gaskets.
 

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besides ford anywere else i could get gaskets? im looking around so far MMR, and lethal dont have anything
 

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Sounds like the starter is stuck in the on position. Check the starter.
 

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If you have coolant in your cylinders it would have grenadesd already. Dump oil immediatly and find out what liquid looks like.

My starter just stuck on my stang and it sounded exactly like that. It chewed up my flexplate. Had to drop trans etc....follow the noise with a hose in your ear.
 

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Actually, thats a great point! Starter could be stuck with the armature engaged on the flywheel...
 

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if this is true how would i go about tracking it down. I mean when this thing is on between the engine and the squeel i cant hear a damn thing
 

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pull the starter. If the teeth are stuck in the "out" position where it'd engage your flywheel, there's your answer.
 

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I have a set of motorcraft lower gaskets for your car. My dealer sold them to me by accident because they knew I had a blower on the car and automatically assumed it was a 4V. Instead of returning them I just kept them incase somebody needed them some day. I think I paid $40 for them, but make me an offer and you can have them. I took one of them out of the package to make sure it didnt match my old gaskets.
 

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After listening to the noise I too am thinking the starter is the problem. It sounds more like a "dremel" than a vacc\boost leak.
 

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Bearings in the starter screaming for mercy at that RPM
 

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well i got the gaskets ordered JUST in case, and ill get the starter out soon to check that too. Thanks for the input so far guys!!!!
 

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Curious to how things turned out for you.

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