Bully-flo Racing and Kevin Yates heads


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What was the deal with the 3800 meet FB page and Yates today? I heard something about him threatening to trash some peoples cars?
 

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Whatever it was, it was bad enough to get some people talking about canceling the michigan 3800/wbody meet.
 

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Kevin Yates basically threaten to beat up Darryl and also anyone else at the meet he didnt get along with. Not only that he said he will vandalize peoples cars. Thats the short version. lol Idk what happen to that post on facebook.
 

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I guess one of the motors Yates built isn't doing too well. Zzp says the clearances are too tight and the pistons are scrubbing the walls.
 

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I guess one of the motors Yates built isn't doing too well. Zzp says the clearances are too tight and the pistons are scrubbing the walls.
I had my dealings with them, so take what ZZP says about their competition with a grain of salt
 

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Fuck anything ZZP says.





Carry on.
 

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I should rephrase that. The guy that owns the car is saying that's what zzp told him. Zzp doesn't even want to admit they had the car on their dyno.

I'm still waiting for my money refund on a pulley puller rental from zzp back in 2006.
 

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Cody informed me of something recently....
Yates appears to be building up group buy capital to buy the zzp molds or already has them and needs casting $....
In my opinion the aluminum heads are only good for better clamping and better exhaust port turn/exit angle.
For a true solution the only real benefit would be if they were splayed valves to help fill our tiny cylinders....or 4 valve.

I still don't see much of a need larger volume ports with the horrible high RPM breathing characteristics of our short deck High angularity rotating assemblies.

Although since he mentions custom intake manifold I'm wondering if he's going after my series 1 tall deck / Series 2 cylinder head and top-end hybrid build idea.

That's the only way to get the rotating assembly geometry that will let these engines breathe over 5500 RPM... otherwise keep it below that and shoot for low/midrange torque.

I hope they get their patient...er patents. That way maybe they'll show some pictures and we can see whether it is the zzp mold.

I guess we should all be happy that people are still trying to pay attention to us lowly Buick guys




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It is interesting he talks about custom cast intake manifolds. Lost wax casting with 3D printers is one of the reasons why we built our printer big enough to do entire intake manifolds.

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Hmmm. Interesting. I'm supposed to get a set from zzp yet, once they finish them. I wonder if that's still the way to go??
 

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I talked to zoomer, they are done with it. Everything left has been spoken for .
I was waitin on zzp to get a new batch out but that either didn't happen or it did, and they disappeared before i even got wind of it.

This made me a lot more interested in this whole thing. I pretty much just want a set of heads that will, at least, match the performance of my current IS4 heads cause theyre old AF and I don't know what sort of condition theyre in now. Seats have been cut down at least a couple times already. It'd also be nice not having to run lead substitute all the time for fear of the seats
 

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Looks like we're going to be designing a splayed valve cylinder head for 3d printing a lost wax casting core.

I've got a big enough torch for a furnace but you're going to have to collect all the beer cans for being able to cast it
 

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Holy smokes. Zeph is back in the house.

I hate to be that guy, but is Yate's really all that? All I have to go off is what the Facebook mob says. I tend to ignore most of the talk about his business practices since it 95% of the people talking shit have never actually bought anything from him. Yates' seems to have some neat parts, but I have yet to see or hear anything about his success record. His engines LOOK hardcore, but will they run? He gets really defensive anytime somebody asks for 1/4 mile times, dyno results, or even just a video of a running engine. That sort of behavior does not make me inclined to buy a big ticket item like cylinder heads. That's just me. I hope somebody here will be able to set it straight.

I would not be surprised if TA starts dipping into this market though.
 

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He's definitely a sketchy guy. Nothing that he has built has gone fast, from what I can tell.
 

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I hate to be that guy, but is Yate's really all that? All I have to go off is what the Facebook mob says. I tend to ignore most of the talk about his business practices since it 95% of the people talking shit have never actually bought anything from him. Yates' seems to have some neat parts, but I have yet to see or hear anything about his success record. His engines LOOK hardcore, but will they run? He gets really defensive anytime somebody asks for 1/4 mile times, dyno results, or even just a video of a running engine. That sort of behavior does not make me inclined to buy a big ticket item like cylinder heads. That's just me. I hope somebody here will be able to set it straight.
Frankly as long as it's not a straight-up scam, i don't really care if he can actually build an engine. I just want a set of good heads while I can get em. No one else is stepping in and organizing a serious measure to get some produced, including zzp at this point.
 

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I was gonna post something, but I already did apparently.

I dont even want to make fun anymore. I genuinely feel bad that there are people that will take advantage of others and deprive them of money for things they either dont need, or are shotty craftsmanship.

I totally forgot about the cookie sheet thing though. :bowrofl: THAT is still funny.
 

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