Another end of an era

[GTPpower]

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[Mook]

Damn

 

[GTPpower]

I'm pretty sure Dave took a full time job a year ago or longer. His turnaround has been pretty slow for awhile.

 

[Yaj Yak]

Fuck

 

[v6buicks]

Oof... That's a big hit to the community.

 

[OffshoreDrilling]

Can’t imagine they guy gets a ton of work on rebuilds for a trans thats been out of production for what, 15yrs?

as long as parts are available, a trans really isn’t that hard to go through. Especially a 4spd.

 

[PANDA]

Not surprised.

Sounds like ZZP is only one left offering "built" transmissions?

The 3800 community is dead. MOST of the cars still around are piles and owned by people with no money.

 

[GTPpower]

Justin Nicholls and Chris Harmon still build them.

 

[bs009]

As long as he doesn't go off the grid forever and keeps selling parts the 4t65e should still be okay. With no 1" chains out there though it kinda makes anything serious with the 4t65e seem pointless. No one has really pushed the envelope of the 3800 recently so it seems pretty dead and boring. There's still a lot of people out there though doing more mild turbo builds. You've gotta love the motor to be sticking around though I think.

RWD builds are the future for those who still love 3800's and want to go crazy if you ask me. There's so many better transmission options that can be had for less than what people want for the 1" chains alone.

Has anyone ever broken a bottom end from too much power yet?
I'm hoping to get wild with a rwd platform myself and see what it'll do, but I need to exercise some self-control for a few more seasons.

 

[v6buicks]

Your post got me kinda worked up. I've also been drinking, so here goes nothing.

RWD builds are the future for those who still love 3800's and want to go crazy if you ask me. There's so many better transmission options that can be had for less than what people want for the 1" chains alone.

This is what I've been saying for a few years now. I think part of the problem is that people (including myself at one point) think that the RWD transmission options suck as well. Sadly, keyboard warriors will say that T5s and and 4L60Es are glass because they can't handle 1000HP. I mean, they're right. A stout 3800 build will kill both of those transmissions in a hurry. However, that doesn't mean that you won't have a killer time in a stock long block car with a cheap turbo and an upgraded clutch. It's just hard to make that case anywhere but here.

Has anyone ever broken a bottom end from too much power yet?

In this forum? Not sure. I haven't been here long. Last I checked, some of the quickest 3800s down under were still using stock blocks and cranks though.

I'm trying hard to preach this to the Buick community. The guys with all out V6 Grand National race cars are dropping like flies due to the cost of Stage 2 blocks and associated parts. I don't blame them one bit, but I wish they would see the 3800 as a viable option. They're practically a worthless junkyard version of an on-center Stage 2 block with the addition of knock sensors and cross bolted mains. It even bolts in place of the original V6 if you cut an unnecessary tab off the block and use a transmission adapter. The stigma is that these engines are weak which is just laughably false.

 

[GTPpower]

Yeah, zzp never found the limit to the stock bottom end. They did like 753whp on Matt's car before they pulled the engine out and did a built engine. The engine they pulled out was put in another car and is still running last I heard.