BUILD 1971 Nova - Work in Progress

TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
6e34fd2b14f461c789e8c38f095fc42e.jpg


c30e2847be226ebdac1bfb0fe5de39bc.jpg


1/8inch plate mock up

39dd764dea1fefbd57cb9c122521fe70.jpg


f1db6a883b79d8c4d3b79c321620ed3b.jpg


b1a85278a8b86e1be1cfdd7baa1a7fe6.jpg


b36887080bb0c29dea0afdb6fa3784f1.jpg


Need to make a close out panel here that connects the inner tub and the trunk drop off pan
5404646ad36ffdeedf8c59eaf630261e.jpg


2d04c05bf4f11c748af2f5e02f7ddd67.jpg


2ce4f158232c4f843f721f209a5ae932.jpg


Still some tweaking to do before it all gets burned in. I need a second hand to verify everything, just getting it dry mocked single handed was a royal pain.

The outer wheelhouse needs to go in first then the inner deep tub. Once those are both in I can do final fitment of the fender.
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Passenger wheel tubs are in! Still some stitch welding and more grinding to do to finish it 100%.

4606dbcc365e83898d3f01a6787a1168.jpg


ee6c4c55553210b26885bb28c26ebe5e.jpg


ddb1de30490d8ec31f5798e3fbf13517.jpg


627eac6c0bc86442e995ae065beff261.jpg


dcd04b3dd428a7eca9bfe222f412208b.jpg


0121731b6eafdbaa1c3553fcc2ae7e13.jpg


0c6bf485555ad1c91791625b8e3111b7.jpg


61b9c99108fe0eec5ef9976e35dcbb34.jpg
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Finished dressing up the spot welds, holding off on the stitch welds in the trunk area since I need to weld in the crossmember back there and replace the floor pan.

I then moved on to final fitment of the quarterpanel, I didn't take many pics but I spent hours tweaking one spot in particular.

Lots of massaging to get the same uniform gap, the silver marks are where the gap was too tight.
b1ff0af45197c7750fc2f8cabd833fee.jpg


I cut this corner section on purpose as there is a backing plate I wanted to leverage for rigidity.
90bafed45e156513f563be2a6669e7ab.jpg


I'm still not ready to burn it in yet as the lower style line doesn't match up with the doors lower style line. I could fix that but the style line by the window is also off but in the opposite direction. The door is a weld in hinge so adjustment is limited.

I will post more pics of my conundrum when I get back to it.
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Adjusted the door so the style lines match up on the factory panels. Had to tweak the bottom of the door so it followed the rocker, found some more crusty metal that I will have to replace when I get to the doors.

Pics of the door lined up.

8cf943ebcb27d9852a40eff3753a0767.jpg


8423147eedc11fabb68690d2a505c0fc.jpg


d21b8ae2a638cca2f198ac811c40f390.jpg


Once that was done I finished dry fitting the fender and then started welding it in. This took forever doing tach welds. I used an air gun to cool off the welds to prevent warping. I didn't so such a great job as there are 2 spots that warped. It's not bad, but it will require some hammer/dolly work.

8c674c23742328475a31ab89cafdb43c.jpg


5e9b5c46d5a65af2df9f16a73f6a9dfe.jpg


9e827e1bb0c112de879f8d8348e4267d.jpg


5a6c18066236747e006c662097d9df68.jpg


There is still some welding to be done on the door jamb and on the trunk drop off pan. Then I will go over the welds again as I didn't finish dressing them 100%. I will also dress them inside the trunk so you can't tell where the panel was welded in. I should get this all done next go round. Then if the trunk floor pan is in I will start on that and then onto the drivers side tub.
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Finished the welding in the passenger side, didn't get any pics.

Next up is the driver side, like before I cut both the new fender and the old fender at the same time. I used a body saw this time so forgive the non strait lines.


The result
ca6dd80fabbf09dc072f8d803db7c120.jpg


The driver side wasn't as bad so I left much more of the original fender in place.

Had to get a few pics of this quality craftsmanship

2fc83f37ca2a8f11890226b6fdd0cae6.jpg


e9763e6611e405afc68d4696b23babaa.jpg


c381788c03d056cc7d22130c096e7553.jpg


I was hoping I wouldn't have to replace the wheelhouse but it looks like it is too far gone and would be more work to graph good steel in.

f0bd93a32cb92cfc8fca07a0b63cad37.jpg


0859d473b5742fc62f947f80e369805b.jpg
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Disclaimer lots o pics

So I stopped by Pratt's (aka Pressureratio) work to grab the trunk pan, I needed this to see approximately where my cuts would be as this needs replacing.

Before

704bf7c6e6c5ede9c8d3c71c748d7b83.jpg


I have the shop light under the pan so the holes are better seen.

4ba33cb96bb3ca15c21ed5e960ef9a06.jpg


I then drilled pilot holes so I didn't cut the braces. Then I cut out the center rot, I am leaving it like this for a few weeks as it's easier to work being able to stand in the trunk.

Cuts

8417cc0b376e69f2b3628e5b5fc1006d.jpg


It was a real bitch finding the spot welds, I sanded down the metal and usually you can tell where the spot welds are by the indentations. No such luck here so it was a lot of guessing. I found common spot welds on both braces and just pealed the metal back to the next set of spot welds. I fucking hate spot welds!!

63cd2b7f39391eb74cf5d5ace16d1e47.jpg


1dda987cd03fab7285a94305ecc933bc.jpg


2778aee3a91abc2bd81e83d825dafc49.jpg


About as far as I am going for right now, lots of trimming to do but that will come after the wheel tubs are done and the shock cross member is in.

ca25de461f203b65a49c5a312a870239.jpg


Wire wheeled and rust converted for now.

9f7675dee5f79b20b2fbf2335f38913e.jpg


Then on to the wheel tubs, I bought a new body saw from Eastwood, the shit ass harbor freight saw was gutless.

a5b4c0637a5bfa7f5fa5993741b2dd88.jpg


Rough cuts for now

a26494329cc352bbf319cce59970f5ea.jpg


Now I have one side under my belt I know this side will go faster.

When I was trimming the wheel well near the passenger seat and floorboard I found more trust metal shelving with its partner in crime JBWeld. I wish I had sent this out for blasting so all of this would have bee found at once.

716917025c89f92ccd1b05eb7ef4d9c5.jpg


All that was cut out today

ce4bb7a221955c5f6a39b22f982a22d8.jpg
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Had a helping hand today so I pulled the rear glass, there was a few holes so I need to fix. That and the little welding blanket I have didn't cover all the glass so I feel better knowing it won't shatter in me.

923d63c4ed4b95d263228d6af31d48f3.jpg


cc5bb28180daafc4d9507c2b2a9706b0.jpg


Once the glass was out I went back to surgery, knowing what I had to cut from the other side I bypassed the 30 or so spot welds holding the inner tub in and just cut my 2 inch line.

62f20e8eb55384381c05bd72e6b5b2d0.jpg


3d9ebff30b78926f249c14ec63a9b7ee.jpg



The drivers side had the panel that goes from the bottom of the inner tub and connects to the trunk pan. I did have to cut out the spot welds on this so I could keep it as a template.

dbb5e2d6962e2469389dbc24f5bb897d.jpg


I mocked up the inner tub, there is a few spots I have to grind back since the outer tub is still in for reference. However it is very minimal and should only take an hour. Then it will be on to making the close out panels and boxing the frame back in.

76ccadc255dc5794bc720010077e3a87.jpg


All in all this side is taking about a 1/3 the time, so a full day or two in the garage I should be ready to burn it all in.
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Very rare the wife tells me go play in the garage, especially considering I was just in there yesterday.

I need to clean everything to bare metal and weld through primer and then it's on to welding in the close out panel and frame plate.

Pics

6ac4bdd5bb932d8feba8b0d01a4c6102.jpg


eabad2a1adebfd9c69f5943521ecd28a.jpg


078c92fd3c3609c4f07f70b9d62a807d.jpg


I will need to make a few patch panels for this window brace like I did on the other side.

b6e0c6a5aa41350aad7679bd62d9db91.jpg



This motherfucker just plain sucks, this was a good 2-3 hours of trimming, spot weld cutting and general cussing. This is the brace that holds the outer tub at its top most location. If I had chosen to buy full quarters it would have been easier to get to. I completely forgot how much this sucked on the passenger side, this side was a little worse since I left much more of the original quarter panel in place.

cd242481a18055a2ae07173e588f9b02.jpg


Inner tub mocked up again, now that the outer is removed I can dry fit all the parts to make sure they are all in alignment.

fb4edee4d7ed77a639835511f5d270ff.jpg


f19a1ee007320297ac99cb4565b74a67.jpg
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Only had a few hours in the garage today so while I did get a lot done it didn't feel like it. Had to stop early for trick or treaters.

I mocked up both tubs and one small section of the inner tub was pushing the outer tub out of alignment by 4 inches. Took a little while to get that corrected and then both tubs slid in like butter.

533691cdbee0704024f5b93f1a7789aa.jpg


7b6d8af229e27a5b98ff59035875bf85.jpg


I then moved on to making my close out panels for the frame. I have it tacked in but forgot to grab a pic.

Using the supplied DSE template as this one actually came close to fitting the opening.

5e8af62923ab322e308afe9e90c1cca1.jpg


Then it was the vice to bend 1/8 plate to fit the curve. With my dad's old workbench and vise (see dyi projects thread) it went pretty smoothly.

I am heading down to Springfield tomorrow for a conference so I won't be back at it till next weekend.
 

10thSVT_03

DRRRT PROSPECT
Joined
Feb 28, 2009
Posts
2,153
Reaction score
23
Coming along nicely. All that sweat and effort will pay off in the end.
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
So I know I am very far from the end result but I can't help wondering what my vision of the car will end up resulting in.

So I am no artist and even though I am in IT I am not very good at photo editing or rendering. Regardless I am read up, watched a bunch of YouTube videos and tried this many times over several weeks.

So I took a bunch of 71 nova pics from the inter web and started manipulating what I could. For this round I choose this silver nova because the profile was what I wanted to work with and it had a decent stance. Also silver was easiest to manipulate since it blends in with the chrome and stainless trim.

Here is the base photo
3175a272c3ad9025a5701b9a574aca97.jpg


After many many attempts here is some of the results
2a8ee1b89edd931fd35aa1c2d0074e1b.jpg



Trim in body color
0bcfee9e8b09650a46e2fd6db9db1bb6.jpg



Darker color. Still undecided on what I like.
e24deaa0ce430841a0138d3c4a948ee6.jpg


I didn't like the rims in the picture and I am a cheapass so I may be utilizing something like these dark stars. For now these will be used in my next couple chops until I can find something I like better. I am also undecided on keeping the trim raw stainless or painting it body color.

I also modified the front bumper as I didn't like the cutouts, there may be more on that later. I also want to spend some time chopping out the eyebrow moldings and the hood trim and just smoothing that out. This is a major body mod I have been contemplating over the last year or so.

There will be a few more I am posting up with different changes as I work on these edits. I welcome all opinions/comments.
 

Bub

Pitter Patter
Donating Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2012
Posts
13,923
Reaction score
1,945
Location
Spring Grove
:pedobear::wackit:steel cities grey metallic and widened corvette ralleyes /thread
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
So I got both the outer wheelhouse and inner tub welded in before I went hunting last week. When I got back I started on fitting the fender and realized that the outer wheelhouse was kicked out 1/2inch again. I was rushing trying to get as much done before I headed out of town. That will teach me!

Luckily I didn't fully burn it all in so I cut out some of the welds and was able to pull both tubs back in place. Then back onto final fitment of the fender.

I didn't take too many pics, but someone on Steve's Nova Site PM'd me about metal repair specifically what I am doing now. So I started playing around with time lapsed video so this person can get an idea of what it all entails.

Pics first

85f2cd0a9c827901e4f645abe7d45401.jpg


14a4cdb99c19d4d6ff20fb94842c6113.jpg


Ya nothing special you have seen it before. So forgive the bad angle of the time lapse, this was my first attempt. Hopefully this link works. The video is about 3 mins long and not that entertaining.

Nova
Welding in wheel tubs and fender
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a2fnvI4Mi2E
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Thanks Mike, it's moving along at a better pace now but every time I get a bit of steam built up something comes up. Hopefully I can continue on at the pace I have been at lately.
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Fender is now burned in, I had one spot warp pretty bad, had to cut the welds in that area and hammer it out. I still need to dress the welds which I will get to another day.

I needed to cut the lower stay line out of the new fender. It doesn't match up with the old fender, plus I needed to cut the old fender where it met the rocker so it's flush. I will get to all that later.

e6502d913bab8179436ec04724fa78c4.jpg


040f1779a276d32f8376ce99e8424581.jpg


e9acea846d54dfed6f4412517cfd9d0c.jpg


53b4a85ade516984f298ae6aaf50cff7.jpg


I also did another time lapse video, still the same angle.

Welding fender
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gp7nrA6TLgo
 

Bru

Moderator
Staff member
Moderator
Donating Member
Joined
May 24, 2007
Posts
39,726
Reaction score
3,446
Now that's a good use for time lapse.
 
TS
TS
cap42

cap42

Restoration Hell
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
2,545
Reaction score
792
Location
Bolingbrook IL
Back at with the holidays and house projects over with.

Fixed the lower style line on the driver fender, the passenger side will be more of a challenge. Cut 1/2 off the top and welded it in the bottom

44a3cf25b0dc96ea89bc6998ad083763.jpg


94602d62a749a61e496a32d1794f63f7.jpg


Fixed where the fender met up with the rocker with a slice in the door jamb.

9b01c022e0f9838c9b51e08a8fa8b9ac.jpg


Also bought a new toy, I have wanted a stud welder for some time to fix the multitude of dents in the fenders I'm not replacing.

I got the stud welder at harbor freight with 200 studs, and a slide hammer. While the stud welder seems to be decent quality the slide hammer is a POS. I will live with it for now since the whole kit was $100, normally these kits are around $270.

Since I couldn't wait to play with it I started on the nasty dent that was in the drivers door. I dug out the filler and found it was about 5/8th thick.


Before I dug out the filler
7a917238a493ac03bdf7d439c628fae0.jpg

During
a30183d9d73019c2e078c9d022782de2.jpg


2adbea019c8f2b5f85f9ea0f803124d5.jpg


All done!
0d8847aa31a065fec0b06673de5350e0.jpg
 
Top Bottom