No drivers License for high school dropouts?

[Bob Kazamakis]

it might be per district/school, but I know for a fact it was required by my HS to take a drivers ed course, either privately or in school to graduate.

"Each student must pass the classroom portion of Driver Education in order to graduate high school."
http://www.d214.org/educational_services/driver_education_program_.aspx

Mine was also required; it had something to do with the safety crap in the classroom portion. We had a blind kid in our class. No joke.

 

[Stink Star]

I agree with this. Dropping out of high school is a measure of the student's concept of responsibility and sound decision making (or lack thereof). Driving requires a lot of both. While I also agree that the driving testing is a joke, maybe this would help weed out SOME of the irresponsible drivers. I also have no problem with the alterior motive of keeping kids in school.

THIS X10000

 

[Sprayin]

I cant believe any of you are agreeing with this. There is NO connection between driving and graduating high school. That is complete and TOTAL bullshit.

 

[Turk]

Mexicans are more likely to be criminals, so you might as well just lock all of them up now. This is pretty much what this sounds like to me.

 

[importcrew]

Mexicans are more likely to be criminals, so you might as well just lock all of them up now. This is pretty much what this sounds like to me.

When do I go to jail.

But yes.... I agree with those who disagree. I see no connection between the two and none the less there are some people who do drop out for certain reasons here and there that would be considered a "good" reason. I do believe people should graduate high school at the least and whether or not they want to go to college is their decision. But to compare the two is comparing apples and oranges. Sure, you'll find similarities one way or another, but overall they are two different things.

 

[importcrew]

Mexicans are more likely to be criminals, so you might as well just lock all of them up now. This is pretty much what this sounds like to me.

And on a side note as well... I read an article (I think on HuffingtonPost.com) that stated in their report that the IL State Police would racially discriminate "brown" and "black" people more than "white" people when pulled over and would do a consent search. It stated that when "brown" or "black" people were pulled over, they were more likely to be asked to search their vehicle compared to "white" people. HOWEVER, it also stated that "white" people were MORE likely to have some kind of contraband than "brown" or "black" people.

 

[Stink Star]

I cant believe any of you are agreeing with this. There is NO connection between driving and graduating high school. That is complete and TOTAL bullshit.

Nobody is saying that there is a connection between driving skill and education... It is simply a motivation to not be a fuck up. I think of it like the law where if a 16 year old kid gets busted at a party for underage drinking, they can get their license revoked until they turn 21 (or 18), even though it has nothing to do with their driving ability. It is all about personal responsibility and positive decision making ability. Dropping out of school is a bad idea 99% of the time and all they are doing is making it that much worse of an idea. I don't care how stupid or lazy somebody is, there are programs out there for equivalency or GED that anybody can pass (believe me, I work with GED people who can't even spell a simple word like "vehicle"... They spell it vehical.)

 

[SirMarco]

Nobody is saying that there is a connection between driving skill and education... It is simply a motivation to not be a fuck up. I think of it like the law where if a 16 year old kid gets busted at a party for underage drinking, they can get their license revoked until they turn 21 (or 18), even though it has nothing to do with their driving ability. It is all about personal responsibility and positive decision making ability. Dropping out of school is a bad idea 99% of the time and all they are doing is making it that much worse of an idea. I don't care how stupid or lazy somebody is, there are programs out there for equivalency or GED that anybody can pass (believe me, I work with GED people who can't even spell a simple word like "vehicle"... They spell it vehical.)

 

[jason05gt]

Nobody is saying that there is a connection between driving skill and education... It is simply a motivation to not be a fuck up. I think of it like the law where if a 16 year old kid gets busted at a party for underage drinking, they can get their license revoked until they turn 21 (or 18), even though it has nothing to do with their driving ability. It is all about personal responsibility and positive decision making ability. Dropping out of school is a bad idea 99% of the time and all they are doing is making it that much worse of an idea. I don't care how stupid or lazy somebody is, there are programs out there for equivalency or GED that anybody can pass (believe me, I work with GED people who can't even spell a simple word like "vehicle"... They spell it vehical.)

It’s stupid because of two things:

1. You cannot be productive without having a drivers license. How are you going to get a job or go to a grocery store?

2. The Government is getting into too many personal issues and becoming a nanny state. What’s next? You don’t have an IQ of 100+ and you cannot drive lol

If the Government wanted to make society more “productive”, they would cease to give out unchecked handouts to everyone.

 

[SirMarco]

It's not stupid. Like I said I agree with it.
Driving is not a right, it's a privilege. You drop out of school because you are to lazy then you don't deserve to hold a drivers license.
Yes there might be loop holes that would cause a person to have to leave school but those are also the ones who will either go back or get their GED. If you just drop out because you're lazy then like I said you don't deserve to hold a drivers license.
If you want to drive that bad, this will give that person the incentive to go back and finish up. Maybe it will help smarten up our country some.

 

[jason05gt]

It's not stupid. Like I said I agree with it.
Driving is not a right, it's a privilege. You drop out of school because you are to lazy then you don't deserve to hold a drivers license.
Yes there might be loop holes that would cause a person to have to leave school but those are also the ones who will either go back or get their GED. If you just drop out because you're lazy then like I said you don't deserve to hold a drivers license.
If you want to drive that bad, this will give that person the incentive to go back and finish up. Maybe it will help smarten up our country some.

It’s stupid because the Government is focusing on stupid shit. Want to talk about “privileges”, well how about the illegal aliens in this country driving or using our healthcare system? There are plenty of examples of people wasting taxpayer dollars. Go after them.

If you can pass the test and can show competency behind the wheel, what does it matter? In terms of driving, it would be smarter just to raise the driving standards.

 

[NetChemica]

If the Government wanted to make society more “productive”, they would cease to give out unchecked handouts to everyone.

That's in the works already.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-florida-welfare-drugs-idUSTRE74U6W320110531

 

[ChrisRac]

It should be up to the parents to revoke driving proviledges. Not the state.

 

[SirMarco]

I agree that the country sticks its nose in business it shouldn't and turns away on issues that it needs to focus on. That is the dam truth. But this is a issue that maybe they should look at. In reality though the US gov isn't the ones who will/would control this, it would be each individual state gov.

 

[sickmint79]

this is stupid. i can find you plenty of people who graduated high school and are shit drivers. in fact, i can find you straight a or near straight a students in high school that are not very bright. dumb idea.

 

[sickmint79]

And on a side note as well... I read an article (I think on HuffingtonPost.com) that stated in their report that the IL State Police would racially discriminate "brown" and "black" people more than "white" people when pulled over and would do a consent search. It stated that when "brown" or "black" people were pulled over, they were more likely to be asked to search their vehicle compared to "white" people. HOWEVER, it also stated that "white" people were MORE likely to have some kind of contraband than "brown" or "black" people.

http://www.good.is/post/the-nypd-stopped-enough-black-men-last-year-to-populate-wyoming/

 

[SirMarco]

this is stupid. i can find you plenty of people who graduated high school and are shit drivers. in fact, i can find you straight a or near straight a students in high school that are not very bright. dumb idea.

It's not about being dumb vs smart. It's about actually graduating high school and having some sort of education.

 

[radioguy6]

definitely agree our government should be worrying about other important issues right now, not high school dropouts getting a drivers license... Yes its a good incentive to keep kids in school. But its just a waste of time and resources right now.. Put the resources into making the driving exams more challenging if need be. There will always be irresponsible drivers on the road regardless if they have a 10th grade education or a PhD.

 

[willizm]

Isn't this kinda unconstitutional? I mean what ever happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I agree that having a license to drive is a privilege, but it should be a right to have access to drivers education without stipulation except for age and violation of law. Especially in an economy where personal transportation is required for most daily living hence why I mentioned this bieng unconstitutional.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Isn't this kinda unconstitutional? I mean what ever happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I agree that having a license to drive is a privilege, but it should be a right to have access to drivers education without stipulation except for age and violation of law. Especially in an economy where personal transportation is required for most daily living hence why I mentioned this bieng unconstitutional.

Werd. It is unconstitutional, but that went out the window with the patriot act and fake terrorism. America is a joke when it come to the constitution and us actually following it. Everything is pc and people are just babys that take no responsibility for their own actions anymore.

 

[Lord Tin Foilhat]

Also technically u don't even need a liscense to drive legally. You also don't need insurance, plates, or a liscense to be on the roads. So this is useless to begin with. As long as its not for commercial use, you have the right to travel regardless what they say. Look it up.

 

[blakbearddelite]

Also technically u don't even need a liscense to drive legally. You also don't need insurance, plates, or a liscense to be on the roads. So this is useless to begin with. As long as its not for commercial use, you have the right to travel regardless what they say. Look it up.

To be on the road or to be on the road legally?

Please show us where you found this information instead of posting 'Look it up'. I can't honestly see where it could be legal, definitely not in IL.

 

[SirMarco]

Also technically u don't even need a liscense to drive legally. You also don't need insurance, plates, or a liscense to be on the roads. So this is useless to begin with. As long as its not for commercial use, you have the right to travel regardless what they say. Look it up.

How do you not need a license or permit to drive legally. Last time I checked I will be arrested and fined with possible jail time if I do not have a license to drive and caught.

Also it is a law in IL that the vehicle you are operating has be have at least minimum coverage insurance.

If I do not have a plate(deal, MNF, Intransit) or a plate that is registered to that vehicle I am driving, it will be towed, you will be arrested.

 

[SirMarco]

A little IL insurance info:

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/vehicles/mandatory_insurance.html#complying

 

[SirMarco]

Also technically u don't even need a liscense to drive legally. You also don't need insurance, plates, or a liscense to be on the roads. So this is useless to begin with. As long as its not for commercial use, you have the right to travel regardless what they say. Look it up.

This still just hurts my mind... I wanna know where this information is too.