đź“° Auto News Motor Trend Tests Chevrolet Volt in LA Traffic, Mtns and 100F - Averages 127mpg
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I have a 2010 Prius as a rental car right now. It gets 50mpg, but it's a cheaply buily car and drives like a small school bus.
For 40K, I'd be over at Audi or BMW. What you guys are forgetting is that people that can afford a more expensive car can also afford gasoline. For example, if you can truly afford a Cadillac Escalade….Is the extra $2,000 in gasoline costs really going to break the bank? If the Volt sold for an MSRP of $25,500 I would agree that this would sell well.
For 40K, I'd be over at Audi or BMW. What you guys are forgetting is that people that can afford a more expensive car can also afford gasoline. For example, if you can truly afford a Cadillac Escalade….Is the extra $2,000 in gasoline costs really going to break the bank? If the Volt sold for an MSRP of $25,500 I would agree that this would sell well.
Yea, the 2011 Jetta is a real downgrade from the 2010. I think they had to do this because they really didn't have an entry-level car anymore. However, the 2011 Jetta is a larger car in size, space and volume over the Volt and given the cost premium between the two, I'd still take the Jetta...a 2010 model though!
the difference is that you get the options that the volt comes standard with... in fact save for a few interior trim choices and premium colors... i dont think the volt has any options available... everything is standard
So basically what you are saying is that if this was a Ford, you would hump it all day and it would be a revolution in the auto industry?
In that case I'd pick the volt for sure. Fuck the prius. I'd rather haves nicer car with better mpg.
If it were just about straight cost out of pocket wed all be driving motorcycles... But the difference with this car is that even if u ignore the face that it gets incredible MPG, it's also a nice car with many futuristic features that is really well equipped... Honestly the mpg a car gets is my last consideration in determining if I would want to purchase it or not... Everything else about this car is also badass, that's why I like it
So basically what you are saying is that if this was a Ford, you would hump it all day and it would be a revolution in the auto industry?
Nothing revolutionary here. If GM had mass produced a hydrogen fuel cell, I’d be impressed. Slap a Ford badge on it and my opinion would be the same.
Nothing revolutionary about a mass production car that gets 120+ mpg and has am all glass cockpit? Who the fuck wants a hydrogen fuel cell car with no refilling stations? That's about as worthless as the Nissan leaf... The car you can drive 100 miles, total, then need to plug in for 10 hours... Hope u don't wanna go anywhere south of Chicago with that one
The Volt uses a system that’s basically the same as an electromotive.
Ford already has MyTouch: http://www.thefordstory.com/smart-technology/myford™-defines-a-new-driver-experience/
Lastly, we need more data on the MPG:
http://gm-volt.com/2010/10/10/popul...ty-and-36-mpg-highway-in-extended-range-mode/
http://www.plugincars.com/popular-mechanics-deals-another-blow-chevys-50-mpg-myth-90162.html
electromotive... yes, but if thats your argument i can also say whats revolutionary about hydrogen fuel cells? they have been used since the early 60's on space shuttles! obviously they didnt invent the thing, they are the first to make it compact and affordable enough to put inside a family sedan. and that ford my touch thing is a joke compared to the dash and center stack of a volt...
The thing that’s revolutionary about a fuel cell is that it emits nothing but water and you have a potentially limitless supply. With a “hybrid”, you still have to worry about disposing of the toxic chemicals in the batteries and charging them. Both the plug-in and gasoline engine contribute to the release of greenhouse gases. Not that I care much, but that’s still the fact of the matter.
Lastly, I disagree that it is “affordable” for a family sedan . At $41,000 MSRP, it’s priced right with some pretty damn nice LUXURY sedans. That’s been my beef the whole time. This car is priced too high .
The worst "Greenhouse Gas" may actually be water vapor so the whole "Fuel Cell" car could be as bad in mass production as running on dead dinosaurs.
The Lithium-Ion batteries used in hybrids are actually relatively controllable for recycling and disposal...I looked into it fearing we were walking the same path as they did 50 years ago with nuclear energy.
Transhed may have hit it on the head. GM is going to kick out uber-loaded cars because they know they will be snatched up. Give it a couple years and they should de-accessorize them to a low-30's/high 20's range.
Chevrolet had the right idea about hybrids; electric with an onboard generator. Make the power unit a diesel and price it at $30K before breaks and rebates and watch GM recover from the hole.
The Lithium-Ion batteries used in hybrids are actually relatively controllable for recycling and disposal...I looked into it fearing we were walking the same path as they did 50 years ago with nuclear energy.
Transhed may have hit it on the head. GM is going to kick out uber-loaded cars because they know they will be snatched up. Give it a couple years and they should de-accessorize them to a low-30's/high 20's range.
Chevrolet had the right idea about hybrids; electric with an onboard generator. Make the power unit a diesel and price it at $30K before breaks and rebates and watch GM recover from the hole.
yes, revolutionary in the 60's... not today. and with the tax rebates its much cheaper, and i dont know if youve been shopping around or not but if you want a midsized sedan thats not a total shit box you are gonna be paying mid 30's
At the end of the day, the consumer is purchasing a $42,000 MSRP car. The tax credit doesn't apply at the point of sale.
Tax Rebates as a way of stimulating sales is ridiculous. How did that work for the Real Estate market?
Yes, I've shopped a midsize sedans. You can get a fully loaded Accord V6 under 30K. I am looking at a VW CC for my wife actually. That starts at under 28K. Both of those cars are really nice vehicels.
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