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My whole point was and still is that people say "blah blah blah, zzp has a bone stock bottom end, rah rah, blah" with every assumption that they can just go the the junk yard, grab a motor, stick it in their car, and mke 750+whp. Since this isn't a possibility because it would need modifications to the bottom end to spin as high as they do then it's not "bone stock". If my car didn't count as bone stock because it had a tune, then zzp's block was NOT bone stock. Maybe a modified stock block, because that's what it is, ok fine. I challenge anyone to make 750whp with an unmodified stock bottom end, as in NOTHING gets changed. I will gladly bow down to the almighty leg humping crowd when that happens, but it won't so you will never see me :bowdown:

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what is it you think they changed that magically makes the block better?

The cam was swapped...that's it. It's not like ZZP is making 10x more power on a stocker than everyone else. Plenty of cars have done huge numbers and fast times on stock bottoms. I don't get why you don't believe them, lying doesn't benefit them at all, and if anything would have hurt them in the long run, considering their current line of "built" motors...
 

Turbocharged400sbc

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contributing to my collection of grey hairs
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got a good bit sorted out and ran...but there's still more...and then tape...lots and lots of tape
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Turbocharged400sbc

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I don't understand why you have to do the wiring harness? Did i miss a page of explaining this? Probably going to be a NICE touch though :bigthumb:

TB sensors and ECT on opposite side of car
ICm harness connector relocated to radiator area near coolant level sens, remove emissions related wiring
o2 sensor plug relocated to trans range switch area for better fitment of NB o2 into DP (WB occupies upper easy to get to bung for better free-air cal's)
rerouting harness away from hotside components (only trans connector is anywhere near hotside)
rework oem fan harness for aftermarket fans
rework pcm connector harness routing for more room and air intake clearance (biiiig filter and a nice trumpet inlet someday for the track)
remove all TCBCM/wheel sensor wiring
relocate fuse panel to area below TB/behind P side headlight
minimize visible wiring
redo ground splices for less voltage drop to 2ga battery to block ground point
ability to utilize cruise control buttons for multi stage boost control/other functions :noes:
looking at using a seperate relay to feed direct +12v to injectors and ICM to remove any voltage drop
farkin sekze az hellz :fy:

fishy knows whats up :bigthumb:
 

02BlueGT

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Feb 21, 2008
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TB sensors and ECT on opposite side of car
ICm harness connector relocated to radiator area near coolant level sens, remove emissions related wiring
o2 sensor plug relocated to trans range switch area for better fitment of NB o2 into DP (WB occupies upper easy to get to bung for better free-air cal's)
rerouting harness away from hotside components (only trans connector is anywhere near hotside)
rework oem fan harness for aftermarket fans
rework pcm connector harness routing for more room and air intake clearance (biiiig filter and a nice trumpet inlet someday for the track)
remove all TCBCM/wheel sensor wiring
relocate fuse panel to area below TB/behind P side headlight
minimize visible wiring
redo ground splices for less voltage drop to 2ga battery to block ground point
ability to utilize cruise control buttons for multi stage boost control/other functions :noes:
looking at using a seperate relay to feed direct +12v to injectors and ICM to remove any voltage drop
farkin sekze az hellz :fy:

fishy knows whats up :bigthumb:

:nutz: Do Want
 

Turbocharged400sbc

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the wiring harness is gonna be very nice. should see both Al's 04 GP and the whippled riv. this one will have even more time into it. gonna be fuckin tits.

Al's 04 is the oem harness with just a couple modifications, the 442 is the one with the wiring system that makes the regal look like a battery two wires and a bulb. i had to splice the 94 chassis harness with a 96 cutty harness portions with the 99 bonneville harness for the front engine, and a custom primary side power distribution system, and the 90 toronado rear wiring harness which has to get replaced by an 01 gp harness

i found the 442's wiring harness diagrams its a stack of paper a little over an inch and a hafl high
 

02BlueGT

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Feb 21, 2008
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Now apearing in Hanover Park
Al's 04 is the oem harness with just a couple modifications, the 442 is the one with the wiring system that makes the regal look like a battery two wires and a bulb. i had to splice the 94 chassis harness with a 96 cutty harness portions with the 99 bonneville harness for the front engine, and a custom primary side power distribution system, and the 90 toronado rear wiring harness which has to get replaced by an 01 gp harness

i found the 442's wiring harness diagrams its a stack of paper a little over an inch and a hafl high

You working on the car today ? :pedobear:
 
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