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In a move that will likely get California's consumers in a huff, impending legislation may soon restrict the paint color options for Golden State residents looking for their next new vehicle. The specific colors that are currently on the chopping block are all dark hues, with the worst offender seemingly the most innocuous color you could think of: Black. What could California possibly have against these colors, you ask? Apparently, the California Air Resources Board figures that the climate control systems of dark colored cars need to work harder than their lighter siblings – especially after sitting in the sun for a few hours. Anyone living in a hot, sunny climate will tell you that this assumption is accurate, of course. In fact, legislation already exists for buildings that has proven successful at reducing the energy consumption of skyscrapers.

So, what's the crux of the problem... can't paint suppliers just come up with new, less heat-absorbent dark paints? According to Ward's, suppliers have reportedly been testing their pigments and processes to see if it's possible to meet CARB's proposed mandate of 20% solar reflectivity by 2016 with a phase-in period starting in 2012, and things aren't looking good. Apparently, when the proper pigments and chemicals are added to black paint, the resulting color is currently being referred to as "mud-puddle brown." That doesn't sound very attractive, now does it? Windshields, backlights and sunroofs are also slated to get reflective coatings starting in 2012.

When we first heard of this issue, an internal debate immediately began as to whether this might be an elaborate early April Fool's joke, but it isn't.

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are they fucking kidding? Ban dark colored cars becuase people run their AC more?

Heres a great IDEA, how about restricting Sally from using her 12MPG SUV to go the mall?

or better yet... how bout trying to conquer the real problem.


U.S. Chamber of Commerce Vice President William Kovacs says the California plan "could damage automakers." Kovacs points out that GM and Chrysler are already receiving federal loans to stay afloat, the sunshine state wants to "put more holes" into the sinking ships. If California does win the right to demand stricter CO2 standards, it will be interesting to see if the regulations involve pollutants outside the auto industry. In 2006, cars, trucks, and big rigs only account for 24% of our nation's greenhouse pollution and 4% of the world's overall.
 

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this is definitely up there with wanting to ban aftermarket tires. Seriously when I went to California I would say 75% of the cars on their roads were giant useless SUVs. But they scratch their heads and wonder why they have smog and shit.


its not because of the suvs!?!?!:squint:

did you read what i put... they need stricter industrial standards... no more of these carbon credit bullshit where other companies can buy them from other companies... either way... the industrial aspect of shit needs to be changed.
 

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its not because of the suvs!?!?!:squint:

did you read what i put... they need stricter industrial standards... no more of these carbon credit bullshit where other companies can buy them from other companies... either way... the industrial aspect of shit needs to be changed.

Yes I did and I agree industrial pollution needs to be regulated more.

But regarding automobile pollution, 24% is still alot and can be cut down. All Im saying is if they want to reduce carbon emissions from cars alone, I think its stupid to ban dark colors and waste money reformulating paint and windows tints. If they want to cut down on carbon emissions from automobiles, then put a restriction on large, low MPG trucks/suvs and restrict how they are used.. I think that will have more of an effect than someone using their A/C in a black car.
 

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Why do the people in rural areas in California have to suffer because of the urban sprawl?

My mom said yesterday we should go to California. I told her that that place can rot in hell. Every time i hear, read or see something about that state i wan't to go there and punch them.
 

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I agree, that's just plain stupid. Wouldn't bother me a bit though. Black cars are a real bitch to keep water marks off of...

Sorry, the jerk in me could not resist the correction...

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I agree, that's just plain stupid. Wouldn't bother me a bit though. Black cars are a real bitch to keep water marks off of...

Sorry, the jerk in me could not resist the correction...

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hahah :h5:

im half asleep on my couch. whoops.
 

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I would personally love to throat punch every liberal hippie that decided this was a "good idea".

They could ban dark cars or they could get rid of the 2 million illegal aliens that are driving around in uninsured, broken down vehicles.

Keep the illegals that have a job, ditch the hippies, yippies, yuppies and cute little puppies. That state can suck a fat choad. It's a beautiful state, too bad the people there ruin it for the rest of America.
 

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To be completely fair, the California Air Resources Board never intended to ban black paint -- or any color of paint, for that matter. When devising ways to implement the Cool Cars Initiative, CARB couldn't find any dark paints that passed the 20% solar reflectivity test, which others took to mean that CARB would be banning them. Not so, says a CARB spokesman: "We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors." For now, CARB is sticking with the reflective glass portion of the initiative, which would add a reflective clear coat to windows and $31-$50 to the price of a new car, and is taking public comments on the proposed new rules.

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